How many school shootings were there before they banished God from public schools?

Question

Like I always say, the absence of God is evil.

Answer 1

ZING ! Score.
People always want facts and statistics: There's a big fat statistic in their face. Let's see how they weasel around that one.
You should expand that, though, to God being taken out of the public square in general, starting in the 70's, with all the crack, gangs, broken families, filthy movies, rude foul behavior...... well, you get the idea

Answer 2

In the U.S., staff-sanctioned prayer in public schools was effectively outlawed by two landmark Supreme Court decisions: Engel v. Vitale [1962] and Abington School District v. Schempp [1963]. Following these two landmark cases came the Court's decision in Lemon v. Kurtzman [1971]. This ruling established the so-called "Lemon test" which states that in order to be constitutional under the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment any practice sponsored within state run schools must: 1) have a secular purpose, 2) must neither advance nor inhibit religion, and 3) must not result in an excessive entanglement between government and religion.

The issues surrounding this ruling seemed fairly straightforward until the 1990s, when the courts began addressing prayer at school extracurricular events with less clarity. While some courts allowed student prayers from the podium at graduation exercises, a federal appellate court in Houston ruled in 1999 that student-led prayer in a huddle before a football game is unconstitutional. Much of the recent controversy has revolved around prayer at school athletics events. Guidance was provided by the Supreme Court in Santa Fe Independent School Dist. v. Doe [2000] when it upheld a lower court ruling invalidating prayers conducted over the public address system prior to high school games at state school facilities before a school-gathered audience.



Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.


Violence of any kind rises when the righteousness of God is removed. People have forgotten God every where. We see this began it's rise about the time prayer was removed from the schools. Satan got his way.

We can not be around God without being influenced by God. That's why the unbelievers hate him so much, they feel his spirit and it goes against their spirit.

The moral decline of this nation had began some say in the 50's others say the 60's. We can clearly see the morals took a sharp turn for the worst in the 60's. When we look at everything that our nation as a whole has allowed in our lifetimes there is no wonder why we see these things.

Psalm 44:20-22
20If we have forgotten the name of our God, or stretched out our hands to a strange god;
21Shall not God search this out? for he knoweth the secrets of the heart.
22Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter.


Jeremiah 3:21
A voice was heard upon the high places, weeping and supplications of the children of Israel: for they have perverted their way, and they have forgotten the LORD their God.

Answer 3

There is no religion in French public schools. None. Absolute zero, to the extent that no pupil is even allowed to wear a religious symbol (or anything that could even be interpreted as a religious symbol).

How many school shootings do the French have? That's right. None. Absolute zero.

How can this be? Well, quite obviously, the reason for the school shootings in America is NOT secularism. There must be some other reason, something America has an France doesn't.

You now have a number of choices. Amongst which are:

1. Find out what this is, what is the real cause. Find out if it can be changed and, if so, change it. Save lives.

2. Ignore the evidence. Stick to your guns. Use an error of logic to try and push your point of view across. Let the kids die.

Answer 4

I want to reason more on the spirit of man; for I am dwelling on the body and spirit of man—on the subject of the dead. I take my ring from my finger and liken it unto the mind of man—the immortal part, because it had no beginning. Suppose you cut it in two; then it has a beginning and an end; but join it again, and it continues one eternal round. So with the spirit of man. As the Lord liveth, if it had a beginning, it will have an end. All the fools and learned and wise men from the beginning of creation, who say that the spirit of man had a beginning, prove that it must have an end; and if that doctrine is true, then the doctrine of annihilation would be true. But if I am right, I might with boldness proclaim from the housetops that God never had the power to create the spirit of man at all. God himself could not create himself. Intelligence is eternal and exists upon a self-existent principle. It is a spirit from age to age and there is no creation about it. All the minds and spirits that God ever sent into the world are susceptible of enlargement.

Answer 5

It's not just that they banished God, it's that they LEGALIZED murder, so long as it is unborn children. When the rights of the weakest are violated, it is only a matter of time before the rights of the not-so-weak come under fire.
We have had legalized murder in this country for so long, there are NO SCHOOLCHILDREN LEFT who can remember when it was illegal to kill babies. Life itself is cheapened in young minds who see little difference in born vs. unborn. They are constantly deluged with violence, sex, drugs, rock & roll & the Material generation--who cares?
When the highest court in the land run by adults has no respect for life, how can we expect schoolchildren to? They are only acting out what they see in the rest of society. Without God, there ARE NO MORALS, and there is no reason to have any.
The answer to school shootings is to ablolish public schools. Those who want an education can pay for it. Abe lincoln and George Washington did just fine; and so do many private and homeschoolers. http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000000/00000017.asp Those who do not care to get an education can apply for work at McDonalds or dig ditches. McDonalds will teach them to count change.
In His Service,
John the Baptist

Answer 6

That is an illusory correlation. You are attributing the higher school shootings to the removal of religion from schools, without bothering to research any other changes that may also have come about during that same time frame. In order to make that statement, you have to go back and examine any other changes that have occurred before you can claim that the amount of school shootings has risen over time for that specific reason.

& milomax, the school shooting in the Amish school was not perpetrated by an Amish person.

Answer 7

Brother manuel is right, Americans are just violent fearful people. Ever seen Bowling for Columbine? Moore showed convincindly what were the real causes of the disproportionate amount violence in the US compared with other developed countries.

Answer 8

You're a liar. God was never banned from public schools. Show me in any legal writ or addendum where it says that God is banned from public schools. You can't. Quit spreading confusion and political divisiveness where there is none. It is Christians like you who give Christ a bad name.

Answer 9

They didn't banish god... They banished forcing your crap down our throats in public institutions.

Send your kid to private school of you want a christian education. Whats that? Can't afford it? Fine, send them to public school and educate them at home about religion.

Besides that your argument is like saying, before ice cream there were no school shootings, therefore ice cream is evil.

Answer 10

So how does that explain the shooting in the Amish school. Can't tell me they don't have school prayer there.

God's not banished. He's just not forced on anyone.

Edit: Courtney, so school prayer is only supposed to protect students from fellow students? Christian prayer only protects against Christian shooters? What does it matter where the shooter came from?

Answer 11

God was bansihed out of public schools? When?

Schools here have a prayer in Jesus name before football games and have speeches at graduation talking God, Jesus, Faith, and also have a prayer and Jesus name and sing a spiritual song. (btw, I am now in the south but this was also true when I lived in Indiana). Also the schools recite the pledge of allegiance and have many clubs, etc, etc that are Christian and God-centered.