"love the sinner hate the sin" was 1st spoken by a Hindu fellow named Mahatma Gandhi...?

Question

...who is now in Hell because he didn't accept Jesus as his Lord and savior. "Love the sinner, hate the sin" are the words of a non-Christian. So why do so many Christians use this quote?

Answer 1

"Loving of enemies is another dogma of feigned morality, and has beside no meaning....Those who preach the doctrine of loving their enemies are in general the greatest prosecutors, and they act consistently by so doing; for the doctrine is hypocritical, and it is natural that hypocrisy should act the reverse of what it preaches." – Thomas Paine

"The Bible was established altogether by the sword, and that in the worst use of it -- not to terrify but to extirpate." --- Thomas Paine

"What is it the Bible teaches us? -- rape, cruelty, and murder." – Thomas Paine

Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon than the Word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind."
-Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason, 1794


Christianity cannot live in peace with any other form of faith. -- Robert Ingersoll



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Answer 2

You're making the same mistake that fundamentalist, "Bible-only" Christians often make -- which is assuming that the Bible, and nothing else, is the sole rule of Christian faith. The Bible is not the sole rule of faith for Christians -- it's a belief that separates Catholics like myself from other Christians. Other Christians do believe that the Bible is the sole rule of faith for Christians -- but the Catholic position is that there is NO verse in the Bible that claims that status for itself. In fact, the Bible even suggests the opposite -- in John 21:25 and elsewhere. So, there is nothing wrong with taking a phrase that does not specifically appear in the Bible -- such as "love the sinner, hate the sin" -- and using it to convey a hard-to-deny message. This is a point I usually make when debating a "Bible-only Christian" who has issues with Catholicism. I think this is the 1st time I've ever argued this point with an atheist! .

Answer 3

I find it interesting that God does all his hating in the Old Testament (at least according to LOJ's quotes and all his loving in the New Testament (I hope the Jews will forgive me for referring to their books as the "old" version).

Is this even the same God?

I don't want to antagonize Christians because that is what I am not about. I just have a hard time following a logic that is based on pulling a sentence from one period of history, adding it to a sentence from another period of history, completely disregarding contextual issues and then calling it proof.

M.K. Gandhi, in my humble opinion, is a realized soul. His existence as a enlightened being on this planet is proof that there is a higher mode of being, that we are one with that mode and that it is not a goal but a realizable fact. We only need to look within ourselves and see our own Buddha Nature.

I don't know what Jesus would say about this but I do know that he asked the Roman Soldiers at the foot of the cross to be forgiven. He did not ask that they convert.

Answer 4

A) His name is Mohandas Gandhi. Mahatma means "holy one". It's a title, NOT a name.

B) And who are you or anyone else to state who's going to hell and who's not? Who died and appointed you God!?

C)Call me a coward, but personally I doubt I'll ever see the day that I've got the moxie to stand before Almighty God and tell Him who He can and who He cannot allow into heaven. But that's just me. You twits go ahead condemning everyone else. Just remember; as you judge, so shall you BE judged. So I'd be a teensy bit wary of all that damning everyone to hell stuff if I were you.

Answer 5

The cliche is a short-handed version of "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" and "do unto others" and basically is a good short summation of EVERYTHING Jesus said we should do. When someone speaks a truth, it is true for all people, regardless of their beliefs.

Would you please reference who, exactly, claimed that it was a quote from the Bible? Some people say 'cleanliness is next to godliness'.....do you think we claim that's in the Bible too?

And whether Ghandi is in heaven or hell is not for me to judge; but being an extraordinarily great, loving, giving person does not automatically get you into heaven....so it's possible.

Answer 6

Because it is the truth, there are many truths even among other beliefs but for some reason we all seem to get hung up on that one man, why is that? Can't people see that it is possible for them to hold on to those truths that are valid and Christ as well? Just as many organized religions have BS in them so do other beliefs but they all also have truths and that is what should be looked at, not the differences but the agreements.

Answer 7

How do you know he's in hell? Prove me that hell even exists. If everything is created by God, Gandhi is one of his creations, are you telling me that God Made a Mistake? As far as my concern, Gandhi is with God and Jesus upstairs having fun. The absurdity of your reasoning is overwhelming.

Answer 8

That is interesting can you provide a source for that quote?

And secondly Christians recognize that you can learn things from non-Christians. We don't hold a monopoly on wisdom.

Answer 9

Why do you assume that Mahatma Gandhi is in hell? I am a Christian and I would never assume that.

Answer 10

Lion of Judah says it best.