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Revelation 22:3-4 clearly shows the Lamb and the Father as ONE, when it reference the Lamb & Father as His & Him, not their or they.

Hear O Israel the Lord our God is One Lord!

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2007-10-10 04:46:11 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Jesus & the Father are ONE God!!

2007-10-10 12:35:51 · update #1

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Jesus (the Son) does not rule independently of Jehovah (the Father). Divine authority is never independent of Jehovah, and Jehovah's appointed kings do not "own" the throne on which they sit. Jehovah owns the throne.

(Revelation 3:21) I [Jesus] conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.

(1 Chronicles 29:23) Solomon began to sit upon Jehovah’s throne as king

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2007-10-10 13:34:20 · answer #1 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 0 1

Jesus does not take the throne until chapter twenty of Revelation thus the one on the throne is his father.

Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and [one] sat on the throne.

Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb

In the mist of the throne shows Jesus was not sitting on the throne but "stood a lamb".

Rev 5:7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

Jesus the lamb took the book from his father who IS on the throne. Theses events in Chapter 4 and 5 are prior to the tribulation which is another indicator that Jesus is not on the throne yet since his father had not "put all his enemies as his footstool"

Ps 110 "A Psalm of David. Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

2007-10-13 20:28:22 · answer #2 · answered by keiichi 6 · 0 0

If I Understand you correctly, we have to remember one thing about Revelation, indeed the entire New Testement.

That is the fact that the NT, is all about Jesus. This doesn't mean that the Father, & the Holy Spirit, are any LESS important, but Jesus is always the main focus, & even more so in Revelation!

All throughout the book, are numerous references to the Lamb, the one dressed in White, on a white hourse, & all the rest.

Jesus is the one who changed the world, by dying for the sins of all men, & then rose from the dead, to show man that they could be saved from their dismal existance, & be freed from the sin, that had originally they had been slaves to,since the fall in the garden of eden.

No other religious leader had EVER done that, so it is fitting that Jesus would be the main focus of Revelation, whether He alone is mentioned, or is mentioned in conjuction with the Father, or the Holy Spirit.

All of the trinity are still acting in perfect harmony, but Jesus is always the primarily the main focus, because of His sacrifice for us!

I hope I've helped.

2007-10-10 12:02:52 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

If your questioning the Trinity, then understand that we can not FULLY understand the Trinity, but the scripures are pretty plain that God IS Trinity:

Jesus tells his apostles to baptize "in the name [notice, singular, not plural] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (Matt. 28:19). This is a proof-text: three distinct Persons united in the one divine name. In 2 Corinthians 13:14, Paul writes, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all." We see this same unity of divine Persons in 1 Corinthians 12:4–11, Ephesians 4:4–6, and 1 Peter 1:2–3.

The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God (cf. John 8:58, 10:38, 14:10; Col. 2:9). It also clearly teaches that the Holy Spirit is God (cf. Acts 5:3–4, 28:25–28; 1 Cor. 2:10–13). Everyone agrees the Father is God. Yet there is only one God (Mark 12:29, 1 Cor. 8:4–6, Jas. 2:19). How can we hold all four truths except to say all three are One God?

And yes, Jesus DID say he was God. In John 8:58, when quizzed about how he has special knowledge of Abraham, Jesus replies, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am"—invoking and applying to himself the personal name of God—"I Am" (Ex. 3:14). His audience understood exactly what he was claiming about himself. "So they took up stones to throw at him; but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple" (John 8:59).

Also significant are passages that apply the title "the First and the Last" to Jesus. This is one of the Old Testament titles of Yahweh: "Thus says Yahweh, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, Yahweh of armies: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; besides me there is no god’" (Is. 44:6; cf. 41:4, 48:12).

2007-10-10 11:51:36 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

and Revelations 5:6,7 proves that the guy seated on the throne isn't the same guy as the lamb.
Revelations 5:13 shows they are 2 different beings - both are praised and honored.
and Revelations 3:21 shows that many people can occupy "a throne" - showing its just a reference to rulership.

2007-10-10 12:11:07 · answer #5 · answered by CHRISTINA 4 · 0 1

That was probably Jesus, a part of the Godhead. God the Father is Spirit and would need no throne.

2007-10-10 11:54:28 · answer #6 · answered by ? 7 · 0 2

Christ stands on the right hand of God....

Acts 7: 55-56

But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

2007-10-10 11:57:24 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I and the Father are One
John 10:30

2007-10-10 11:49:39 · answer #8 · answered by caretaker 5 · 6 3

Jesus sits at the "right hand" of His Father's Throne. They are in one accord with eachother even though they are acutally serparate spirits......God identifies "Himself" as the author of the prophecies recorded by His prophets. Their visions came directly from His throne! They carried His divine authority.

God wanted him—and us—to understand that He, the Supreme Ruler of the universe, personally reveals the contents of the book of Revelation.
Many do not fully comprehend how the Bible uses numbers. This factor contributes to considerable confusion about God.

"Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh" (Genesis 2:24). A couple becomes "one flesh" in a marital sexual union. But there is another important metaphorical meaning as well. Though two separate and distinct beings, in this context, the two become one. Some 4,000 years later Jesus repeated this concept when He said, regarding marriage, that "the two shall become one flesh, so that they are no longer two. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate" (Mark 10:8-9). In marriage the two become one when joined in sexual union. But they still remain two separate individuals, still one male and one female—joined together in marriage as one family unit.

Paul wrote that "there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28). There is one Church, said Paul, but composed of many individual members possessing various spiritual gifts and talents.

He further explained to the Corinthian brethren: "There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of activities, but the same God who works all in all" (1 Corinthians 12:4-6).

Paul spent considerable effort to get this simple point across. He continues in verse 12: "For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ." Here Paul compares the Church to the human body.

Finally, in verse 27, he makes this basic point yet again: "Now you are the [one] body of Christ and individually [different] members of it" (verse 27, NRSV). In that sense the divine family is similar: one God and only one God, yet two individual glorified family members now constituting that one God—plus many more potential members among mankind (Romans 8:29).

Paul explains that "there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live" (1 Corinthians 8:6). Scripture reveals two separate, distinct persons, both spirit, yet one in unity, belief, direction and purpose—members of the same divine family. "I and My Father are one," said Jesus (John 10:30).

When we understand what the Bible teaches, we see that there is only one God, just as there is only one human race—one extended family descended from Adam of presently about six billion individuals. Just the same, the one divine family—the family of God—is open to an unlimited number of members.

2007-10-10 12:23:20 · answer #9 · answered by TIAT 6 · 1 0

The word one is italicized that means it is added.
GOD BLESS

2007-10-10 12:00:26 · answer #10 · answered by TCC Revolution 6 · 0 3

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