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The truth about how we are saved by faith alone, and not by ourselves?

2007-10-10 03:34:05 · 11 answers · asked by brian 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I am not judging, I am just stating a fact. How is this judging?

My evidence is the Bible! Why not pick up the new testament and read it for yourself!!!

2007-10-10 03:40:24 · update #1

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Notice in the last question about this, the four catholics that answered ALL CONTRADICTED EACH OTHER in this issue LOL

We know what the catholic cult teaches. They teach a false gospel of works that leads to eternal hell. I feel sorry for those deceived by this cult.

2007-10-10 03:37:25 · answer #1 · answered by CJ 6 · 2 9

Because the Catholic Church teaches from teh Bible:

What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?
If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day, and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well," but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it?
So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

Someone suggested I read Ephesians 2: 8-9

"For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from you; it is the gift of God; it is not from works, so no one may boast. "

My only guess is that someone inserted the word "ALONE" in your Bible. We are saved by GRACE.

2007-10-10 14:12:55 · answer #2 · answered by Sldgman 7 · 0 0

The four answers from the Catholics that CJ says contradict each other:

1. You are misinformed. The Catholic church does not allow divorce for any reason.

2. The Catholic Church is actually one of the only Churches that teach divorce isn't permitted.

3. Unlike most Christian churches, the catholic Church DOES NOT teach that divorce is ok.

4. A person who is divorced may not remarry in the church.

WOW CJ!!!! Could be any more of a blatant LIAR??????

2007-10-10 10:43:46 · answer #3 · answered by osborne_pkg 5 · 2 2

We do.

Here is the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification by Catholics (1999), Lutherans (1999), and Methodists (2006):

By grace alone, in faith in Christ's saving work and not because of any merit on our part, we are accepted by God and receive the Holy Spirit, who renews our hearts while equipping us and calling us to good works.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/documents/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_31101999_cath-luth-joint-declaration_en.html

With love in Christ.

2007-10-11 00:57:46 · answer #4 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0 0

The truth is to share spiritual love all you can and try not to judge. People do not realize that judging even in the name of god will not get you back to god only love will. Father welcomes home those that share love/fellowship on this place no matter what you call yourself.

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2007-10-10 10:40:09 · answer #5 · answered by happy_kko 4 · 4 2

James 2:24 - "You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone."

Some people promote a very attractive idea: All true Christians, regardless of how they live, have an absolute assurance of salvation, once they accept Jesus into their hearts as "their personal Lord and Savior." The problem is that this belief is contrary to the Bible & constant Christian teaching.

Recall this Scripture: "If we have died with him [in baptism; see Rom. 6:3-4] we shall also live with him; if we persevere we shall also reign with him" (2 Tim. 2:11-12). So, ff we do NOT persevere, we shall NOT reign with him. In other words, Christians can forfeit heaven. Jesus tells us, "He who endures to the end will be saved" (Matt. 24:13; cf. 25:31-46). Ergo, if you do not endure to the end, well........

The Bible makes it clear that Christians have a moral assurance of salvation (God will be true to his word and will grant salvation to those who have faith in Christ and are obedient to him [1 John 3:19-24]), but the Bible does NOT teach that Christians have a guarantee of heaven. There can be no absolute assurance of salvation. The Bible says, "See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity toward those who fell, but God's kindness to you, provided you remain in his kindness, otherwise you too will be cut off" (Rom. 11:22-23; Matt. 18:21-35, 1 Cor. 15:1-2, 2 Pet. 2:20-21).

Note that this includes an important condition: "provided you remain in his kindness." It is saying that Christians can lose their salvation by throwing it away. He warns, "Whoever thinks he is standing secure should take care not to fall" (1 Cor. 10:11-12). , Paul admitted that even he could fall away: "I pummel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified" (1 Cor. 9:27). In saying this he points out that even he cannot be infallibly sure of his own present state or of his future salvation.

As a Catholic, when someone asks me if I have been "saved," I answer: "I am redeemed by the blood of Christ, I trust in him alone for my salvation, and, as the Bible teaches, I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), knowing that it is God's gift of grace that is working in me."

2007-10-10 10:37:44 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 7 3

Wrong, CJ - we did not contradict. You just have a comprehension issue.

The Church does. Why don't you actually look it up instead of spreading lies?

You are not stating a fact - you are stating what YOU want to believe. Which is, as usual, incorrect.

2007-10-10 10:40:04 · answer #7 · answered by SpiritRoaming 7 · 5 2

Brian, why don't you just go along and believe your particular set of assumptions about these non-verifiable things and allow others to believe what they believe?

You really don't know "the truth," do you?

Unless, of course, you are defining "the truth" as "that which I happen to believe."

2007-10-10 10:39:01 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 5 2

well, we certainly teach that by the same measure you judge, you will be judged yourself. This is a good teaching and you'd do well to learn it.

2007-10-10 10:37:57 · answer #9 · answered by Midge 7 · 6 2

Interesting question. What logical proof do you have that your version is right?

2007-10-10 10:37:56 · answer #10 · answered by Jenny S 3 · 6 2

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