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Why does the Catholic Chuch state they are in agreement with everything?

If a Jehovas witness say he saved by works, they say they agree with it.

If an athiest says he believes in Evolution, the Catholic Church says they agree with it.

You agree with EVERYTHING, but the problem is your teaching are conflicting with each other. You have so many extra-biblical documents, you have a paper that says you agree on everything.

Is this what the Bible teaches, agree with every doctrine that comes down the line? I think not...

2007-10-10 02:58:09 · 14 answers · asked by brian 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

14 answers

Catholics always conflict with each other:

-Romanist catholics
-Non romanist catholics
-Gay catholics
-Marian catholics
-Non Marian catholics
-Agnostic catholics
-Catholics that believe in hell
-Catholics that say everyone goes to heaven

2007-10-10 03:00:29 · answer #1 · answered by CJ 6 · 2 4

Yes, they hope the faithful will support the church as best they can. The Roman Catholic Church is the biggest private charity in the world and the USA. They don't get that way from no one donating money to continue the good works of the church. On the other hand, they do not look at your IRS statements like the Mormons do. If you are Mormon, you better give at least 10 percent. No temple recommend or benefits if you do not. They will hound you. The Catholic Church also teaches there are going to be times where you cannot afford a penny as you need to care for your family and pay your mortgage. They understand this stuff.

2016-03-19 09:12:42 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

We don't agree with those people because they say it.

The Catholic Church has believed what it believes for 2000 years. As things come up in society, certain beliefs have to be defined...but they are not new.

We have always said the evolution is not at odds with God's plan. This does not mean we believe we came from monkey's only that God has the ability to use anything and everything.

We do not believe in salvation by works alone, but by faith and works. "Faith without works is dead."

We do not agree with everything. As a matter of fact the Catholic Church is constantly making waves. We are against abortion and homosexual sex, we are against contraception etc. and so on.

The Catholic church was the original Christian Church. All other doctrines are new in comparison to that of the Catholic Church. So if we agree with parts of others beliefs it is because they took part of the truth from Catholicism in the first place.

2007-10-10 03:17:22 · answer #3 · answered by Misty 7 · 1 0

This is the funny thing about debate over Catholicism. Some people complain about one thing in the Catholic church then others complain that the exact opposite is true about the Catholic church. You say the Catholic church agrees with everything, yet people complain that the Catholic church refuses to conform to modern society. Catholicism continues to hold that contraception and homosexuality are sins despite opposition from it.

As for believing in saved by works, it is not quite the Catholic teaching. First and foremost, faith is required. Jesus Christ died for our sins and only through him can we be saved. That being said we can lose this salvation by turning our backs to God through mortal sin.

When you say the Catholic church agrees with evolution again its not quite true. The Catholic church allows its members to interpret the creation of the Earth in the bible however they choose. As long as they realize that God created all there is and that man is in God's image, the way in which the things were set into motion is not something that has been set in stone by the church.

2007-10-10 17:56:37 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I think you have failed to realize that religion ... like most things ... is not merely a yes or a no ... but a matter of discernment, discipline, scholarship, and grace.

Catholics understand the importance of works, but Catholics also realize that God is sovereign and omnipotent, and so cannot be forced to save anyone, by any means, so salvation will always remain a free gift.

Evolution is vitually a fact, though not as the atheists believe it to be, since both the angels who fell, as well as man, were originally created good by God, but LATER fell into sin by their own doing.

This sequence of things is a type of evolution, which cannot be denied by any truthful individual.

The "extra-biblical" documents to which you refer are the church's authentic response to Christ's biblical "Great Commission":

Mat 28:18 And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth.
Mat 28:19 Going therefore, teach ye all nations: baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you. And behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.

It was here that Jesus established the official teaching office of the church, which is known today as the Magisterium, and which is a function of all the bishops and the pope, together.

You'll notice from the text that Jesus never commanded anyone to teach using the bible alone, and Jesus promised to remain actively present in his church, until the end of time.

Perhaps he expects you to simply have faith, and take him at his word?

2007-10-10 04:03:50 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

If someone starts a question with "Why does the Catholic Church teach...?" it is a safe bet that what the questioner THINKS the Catholic Church teaches is probably something the catholic Church DOES NOT teach.

Does the Catholic Church agree with contraception? - No
Does the Catholic Church agree with euthanasia? - No
Does the Catholic Church agree with the death penalty? - No
Does the Catholic Church agree with abortion? - No
Does the Catholic Church agree with same sex marriage? - No

2007-10-10 03:10:37 · answer #6 · answered by Sldgman 7 · 2 0

I was brought up Catholic (no longer practicing) and I have never come across this phenomenon you mention.


What Catholics are you talking to?

I have never met a Catholic who says they agree with those things. I think the people who are telling you that are just messing with you because they know you are stupid enough to believe it.


Like I said, I am not Catholic anymore but I had to put in my 2 cents when I read this asinine question! You are mis-informed. Maybe next time you will know the facts before you put out something stupid like that!

2007-10-10 03:02:50 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

I was baptized Catholic and attended Parochial school for 12 years. In retrospect and, as an adult, it is my belief that they teach to continue not to allow individuals to think for themselves and to have a relationship with God that only they deem appropriate. And of course there's the financial issue. You do know that they are one of the wealthiest organizations in the world, correct?

2007-10-10 03:09:20 · answer #8 · answered by Dogchic 4 · 1 0

The Catholic Church does not agree with everything.

We believe in faith and reason.

+ Justification +

Here is the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification by Catholics (1999), Lutherans (1999), and Methodists (2006):

By grace alone, in faith in Christ's saving work and not because of any merit on our part, we are accepted by God and receive the Holy Spirit, who renews our hearts while equipping us and calling us to good works.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/documents/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_31101999_cath-luth-joint-declaration_en.html

+ Evolution +

Most Christians do not take the stories of creation in the Bible literally. Catholics believe the book of Genesis tells religious truth and not necessarily historical fact.

One of the religious truths is that God created everything and declared all was good.

Catholics can believe in the theories of the big bang or evolution or both or neither.

On August 12, 1950 Pope Pius XII said in his encyclical Humani generis:

The Teaching Authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions, on the part of men experienced in both fields, take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter - for the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God.

Here is the complete encyclical: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xii/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_12081950_humani-generis_en.html

The Church supports science in the discovery of God's creation. At this time, the theories of the big bang and evolution are the most logical scientific explanations. However tomorrow someone may come up with better ideas.

As long as we believe that God started the whole thing, both the Bible and modern science can live in harmony.

+ Sources of Doctrine +

I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now. But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to all truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming. (John 16:12-13)

The Catholic Church does not use Holy Scripture as the only basis of doctrine. It could not. The early Catholic church existed before and during the time that the New Testament was written (by Catholics).

There were hundreds of Christian writings during the first and second centuries. Which New Testament writings would become official was not fully decided until about 400 C.E.

Catholics believe that the Holy Spirit was guiding the early church (and is guiding the church today) to make the correct choices about things like:
+ The Holy Trinity (which is also only hinted at in the Bible)
+ Going to church on Sunday instead of Saturday (which is actually directly against one of the Ten Commandments)
+ The Communion of Saints
+ Which writings include in the New Testament?

Things that are even more modern like
+ Slavery is bad. Slavery is never declared evil in the Bible. This was one of the justifications for slavery in the Confederate States.
+ Democracy is good. The Bible states that either God should be the leader of the nation like Israel before the kings or kings should be the leader, "Give to Caesar that which is Caesar's." This was talked about a lot during the American Revolution.

This second source of doctrine is called Apostolic Tradition.

Do Christians who do not allow the continuing guiding force of the Holy Spirit to make their beliefs more and more perfect, still endorse slavery as Colossians 3:22 commands, "Slaves, obey your human masters in everything"?

Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours. (2 Thessalonians 2:15)

We instruct you, brothers, in the name of (our) Lord Jesus Christ,to shun any brother who conducts himself in a disorderly way and not according to the tradition they received from us. (2 Thessalonians 3:6)

I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold fast to the traditions, just as I handed them on to you. (1 Corinthians 11:2)

http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect1chpt2.htm#80

+ With love in Christ.

2007-10-10 17:52:01 · answer #9 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0 0

You can also find Methodists, Baptists, Jews, Muslims, and others who find that their doctrines are being watered down and/or fraught with contradictions.

No two people are ever going to agree about every aspect of anything as personal and vital as Faith.

2007-10-10 03:03:04 · answer #10 · answered by chocolahoma 7 · 1 1

the catholic church is trying to avoid the same stupid mistake they made 500 years ago.
500 years ago Galileo stated that the sun was the center of our solar system and NOT the earth. after being proven wrong the catholic church will agree to anything just to avoid looking foolish

2007-10-10 03:02:13 · answer #11 · answered by Imagine No Religion 6 · 2 2

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