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questions such as why did god create Lucifer if he knew that eventually he would become evil or if we are given "free will" surely this is just the illusion of free will as god already knows the outcome....

2007-10-10 02:03:23 · 36 answers · asked by Cotton Wool Ninja 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

36 answers

that is because thay live in a fairy tale world and not the real world

2007-10-10 02:21:10 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

To answer your initial question, I think it's because they don't know the answer.
I believe I know the answer to your last two questions, at least it's the answer that satisfies me.
First, God created Lucifer because there needs to be opposition in all things, and Lucifer does that.
Second, there is always free will, because we can always choose to follow the path that leads to God or not. Because of Christ's atonement, we are allowed to make mistakes and mess up, then repent (which isn't as simple as it sounds) and still have a hope of Christ helping us return to our Heavenly Father. Yes, God does know if we will make it, but some have said that if we knew if we would make it then it might very well change whether or not we really do make it. I mean think about it, if you know that no matter what you do, you'll make it, then why even try to make good choices. That knowledge would be very dangerous. And if you knew that no matter how good you were you'd never make it... well I hate to even think how bad things would get if that were the case. So I think it's in the best interest of everyone if we don't know, but do know that God knows. For me that's enough.

2007-10-10 11:07:18 · answer #2 · answered by Tonya in TX - Duck 6 · 1 0

I often wondered the same thing myself (about Lucifer), and the most satisfactory answer I ever got was that the angels are eternal. Don't know if it's true or not.

The thing is, answers like "God works in mysterious ways" aren't meant to be a circumvention of the question. It's just that WE DON'T KNOW. I don't have infinite knowledge, nor is my lifetime infinite. And neither does any other Christian.

Perhaps...God could have destroyed Lucifer BEFORE he rebelled, and evil never would have come into the world, and God would still walk among us, and we'd live forever and know everything. Maybe. But how long would it have been before WE rebelled? And maybe, just maybe, God didn't want to see another war like that which was fought in heaven. If the Bible is true, we humans are His most beloved creation. He would have wanted what's best for us, and He would have wanted to allow us to make a choice.

I wish I could explain all this as well as I can see it. It's like this whole chain of events, leading from before the beginning of time as we know it, up to now. And all the different paths the world could have gone.

If it never rained, would we notice the sunshine? Now picture that on a larger scale.

We humans are capable of AMAZING things. Look at all the advances in science, and in medicine. But we're also capable of atrocities. Look at the Holocaust, nuclear bombs, the Crusades, the Inquisition, WWI, the Backstreet Boys (ha ha). Would we have been capable of all that, if God had NOT allowed Lucifer to bring evil into the world?

I hope this helps a bit. I'm afraid I probably didn't explain it very well.

2007-10-10 02:14:45 · answer #3 · answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7 · 1 1

I don't I will answer any question you care to ask. Just as in this one. Why did did God create Lucifer? How Knows why God does the things he does. He says my ways are higher than you ways, my thoughts higher than your. Consider this. Satan up until the very moment that he became jelous of Gods creation of man, could have change his mind, and done what was right.
I see my children in the same situation. I have a 5 year old, he may like a toy of at a friends house, I know he wants it, he strugles, but in the end he puts it back were he got it from, knowing to do right.

Does God know the outcome? yes. Why then? I can't say.

2007-10-10 03:11:57 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You have asked three questions: It sounds like the second two are your more pressing concerns, even though you have attempted to answer it yourself already.

1. Because some Christians try to hard to have all the answers. I am a Christian but I try to recognise that I do not have all the answers about God, just as a sensible scientist would recognise that they do not have all the answers about sicence, and a sensible geologist does not have all the answers about geology. Some Christians unfortunaelty feel that they have to cover up this deficiency by saying 'well if I don't Know, then God must not want anyone to know'. This is a bad approach. As a Christian, I believe God is truth, and therefore any attempt to understand truth is in agreement with God. As humans we will never be able to fully comprehend the universe [and by extension God, is you accept his exists], so there's no point owrrying if you don't understand yet.

2. By that Logic, why would God create anyone if he knows they will eventually at some point disobey him?

3. Knowing someone is going to do something, does not mean their free will is an illusion.

I know my wife extremely well, and because of that I know when I buy her a certain type of book for her birthday she is going to like it, because I know her.

However, it does not logically follow that because I know what she will do, she is not freely choosing to do it.

Her liking the book is still her own choice, her own free will. Just because I knew that would happen, that does not diminish the reality of her own free will.

If we extent that Logic, and accept that God is omniscient (all knowing), then he knows us perfectly and exactly. He knows me so well that he knows what I will type next. That does not mean I am not free to type it.

2007-10-10 02:14:16 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

You ready for a real answer? Here it is:

Part 1) The idea that God knows the future is fundamentalist science fiction. God doesn't contradict Himself, so God can't know what hasn't happened yet, because the future is not a "think" hanging around out there in outer space, waiting to happen like on the SciFi channel. The reason we are all co-creators with God is that we are creating the future with our every action right now, at ever second and every decision. The future exists only in our imaginations. So the question "Why did God creat lucifer if He knew that eventrually he would become evil" is meaningless, unless you're Isaac Asimov.

Part 2) We have free will. See part 1) God doesn't know what we are going to do until we do it. This is no way limits God's omnipotence, because again, we are not talking about reality when we talk about God "knowing the future." And even if He did know that I was going to wear my black shirt today, how does knowing that FORCE me to wear my black shirt? Your logic is faulty.

Part 3) Even with this explained, let's remember that God is eternal and limitless. We are mortal and our minds have all kinds of limits. There are always things that finite beings will not be able to fully understand about infinite beings, or more specifically THE finite being, God. So, like it or not, there will always be things that we don't understand about God.

There, now! Happy?

2007-10-10 02:11:31 · answer #6 · answered by Acorn 7 · 1 4

Surely it would be the fact that god gave us all free will which explains the reason for the first question...it is only because of this that people can "choose" to do evil things.
Secondly just because you have knowledge of an outcome does not mean that you actively affect that outcome.

I am not a practicing Christian, but i understand much of what they BELIEVE in is down to a thing called faith, which you either have or don't. That would be purely your choice.

There will always be questions to which we have no full understanding of or answers to, that is why we will always have philosophy even without religion

2007-10-10 02:15:17 · answer #7 · answered by gdes_00 3 · 2 2

No controlling Establishment likes potentially difficult or challenging questions to be asked...

What better way to avoid such issues than to drill into your followers a few pre-programmed answers which will deflect all attempts at further questioning and dodgy thinking.

God did it

God did not want us to understand that!

2007-10-10 02:10:01 · answer #8 · answered by HP 5 · 5 1

I think God created Lucifer cause He wanted to and then Lucifer still fits into His plan. Its a win-win situation with God. If you love Him, then He blesses you, if you disobey, now He has a natural sort of "policing unit" of the spiritual world....when you sin satan and his demons have legal right to harm you. Seems like a good motivator to stay away from sin.

2007-10-10 02:19:15 · answer #9 · answered by Sinister-6000 3 · 0 2

(Sighs)

Because most Christians are well-meaning idiots who don't understand what it entails to be a Christian. They have no real concept of god, don't understand the contradiction between omnipotence and omniscience and dismiss things that confuse them with the worried assertion that somebdy else is more qualified to work it out.

Why bother?

2007-10-10 13:42:03 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

God knows the outcome, Lucifer knows the outcome and you can too if you read your Bible.

2007-10-10 03:22:52 · answer #11 · answered by PROBLEM 7 · 0 0

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