oh come on julien get it right! we believe that God created everything for his glory and to glorify him not man! man has done nothing but mess things up since shortly after the start. you believe that nothing exploded and from that nothing came all the the things necessary to begin the primordial soup that led to rocks an the amoeba an fish,frogs to monkeys to us the short version....kinda goofy. think about it u think we came from a rock! actually you think we came from nothing if you take it all the way back, so do we! we just believe God spoke everything into existence from nothing and gave us life by breathing into sand showing his power. you think we came from a big explosion of nothing and some water soaked rocks...that makes sense. i know just as much about your argument as you do.
2007-10-05 20:45:35
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answered by emt2898 3
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Your question shows that you're not using your supposed "God-Given" intelligence to understand that...
A. Being a "disbeliever" means they don't believe that there is a "God," so...
B. It would never occur to them that "something they don't believe exists" made anything at all, including their brain and everything else, and...
C. They can easily without any effort or thought in general "not respect" something they do not believe in...and...
D. They are not "boasting," they are "declaring" their disbelief...and it is not an "egotistical" thing...it is a "choice," the same kind of "choice" you are making when you "boast" of your own belief, and "egotistically" ask a question like this that utterly "presumes" that you know for sure there is a "God..."
I have no doubt that you are "convinced" there's a "God," I have no doubt that you "believe" there's a "God, " but one thing is absolutely certain to me and everyone else with an ounce of intelligence...
You cannot possibly "know for a fact" there's a "God," because the only way to find out by Christian definition of what God is, is to die...
And I don't see anybody too darn eager to die...so I can only conclude that "absolutely knowing" would be too high a price to pay for you...therefore...you, yourself, still have a "tiny bit" of doubt, or you would welcome your own "biological" death with open arms, and would never "cry" or "grieve" when someone you know dies...because if you really believe that they go to a better place...
Why are you grieving or crying at all? Seems to me, Christians ought to "celebrate joyfully" and with smiles and happy regards the death of their loved ones...if what you say you "know" is true and actually happens...then you should put your emotions where your mouth is and do the above whenever anybody dies...if it's a better place...then death is not a "tragedy..." it's a "good" thing...
But the reason even religious people grieve is...
Even they in all their egotistical mind-frame know instinctively that death is not a situation where a person is going to a better place...
It's a situation they know underneath all their "faith," is the "end" of being anywhere, let alone a better place...
You cannot defeat the logic of this argument, unless you opt from now on to "celebrate joyfully" the death of your loved ones...
Congratulations! In asking this question the way you "phrased" it...you are doing exactly what you are accusing "disbelievers" of doing...
In other words...YOU are the one who's being "egotistical," and you are the one who's "disrespecting" the very "God" who you believe in...sounds darn "hypocritical" to me...and anybody else who has a "modicum" of intelligence...please show your intelligence in the future by asking a question that doesn't "boast" or "egotistically" accuse people of things you are doing yourself...or you'll just be guilty of the same thing you're accusing others of doing...
2007-10-06 03:39:52
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answered by Anonymous
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Sorry a bit confused. Are you suggesting god created the natural law of science so that his existence could be disproved. Sorry I can't see that. Just take into account how long the planet hs been proven by those laws to have existed. Many millions of years longer than the Old Testament would have us believe. I respect God as a concept, and that he lives IN all of us, but as the creator of all, with that I have a problem.
2007-10-06 03:29:05
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answered by Anonymous
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It's not egomaniacal pride. We're not so vain as you. You believe that the whole universe was created for your benefit, and that all the animals and other life forms, and the angels themselves were forced to bow before you. We believe we came from a common ancestor to apes. Tell us again, please, who is egomaniacal?
God could have done that. It's within the sphere of possibility. But in conceding that point, you would also have to assume that the Bible is incorrect, and that the world is not 6000 years old, and that your religion is permanently flawed, or the whole thing was a metaphor.
So yeah. I have no problems with Deism. If you believe in a God, and don't believe that the bible is perfectly accurate, more power to you.
2007-10-06 03:26:48
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answered by Anonymous
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No, there's no need to invoke a deity to create intelligent life. Natural selection, operating for billions of years (about 4 billion on this particular orb), with a suitable water-based, carbon-rich, solar powered environment can create a smart scientist or a not-so-smart believer just as well. Evolution works in mysterious ways!
2007-10-06 03:27:51
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answered by kwxilvr 4
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Yes, it has occured to many many many Nobel Prize winning scientists. What probably hasn't occured to some people is that when people claim there are scientific miracles in their book, they must be able to provide and check references, or else risk being labeled as a liar.
I've seen many websites dedicated to proving they've found some kind of miracle. They do it in an attempt to validate their religion. If a religion must be promoted with lies, then that religion is a lie itself.
2007-10-06 03:29:16
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answered by Anonymous
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If God created the scientific brain and natural law, then it seems that God made himself obsolete. Why rely on God for answers when we can find them ourselves?
2007-10-06 03:32:41
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answered by Subconsciousless 7
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Well that's kind of contradictory. If God made the natural law of science for our guidance, then why did he put creationism in the Bible?
2007-10-06 03:26:54
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answered by Anonymous
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Nope... Didn't occur to me. Now that I think about it, it's pretty meaningless. Great. I just wasted time on that thought instead of something more important. Like what flavor hot pocket I want.
2007-10-06 03:26:15
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answered by Crypt 6
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like so...
*ahem*
"there is not a smidgen of evidence that gods exist. they are quite likely figments of the human imagination."
oh, did you mean to ask why? tut, that's what happens when you ask the wrong question. you guys are always asking the wrong questions, but it seems like the answer is always god! damn, i wish i was that intelligent!
2007-10-06 03:31:27
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answered by vorenhutz 7
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