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judas turned on Christ and so did charles darwin

2007-10-05 04:55:19 · 17 answers · asked by SOMEONE 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

it should be noted; i never said i hate science or charles darwin

2007-10-05 09:37:31 · update #1

it should be noted; i do not see science or any theory created by man as a threat
to my faith or God.i simply asked a question

2007-10-05 09:48:22 · update #2

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yes he was like Judas In many ways,his theories don't add up and It Is noted on His death bed he regretted saying the things he said and people taking it as a fact, he said It was only a theory, then died, and people have been trying to prove Is theory right ever since and It still don't add up, after all It was only a theory not a fact, but It wont persuade Darwinist, they would rather believe the lie

2007-10-05 05:05:41 · answer #1 · answered by Malcolm H 3 · 1 1

Good sir, please check your facts.

I'm wondering if your query is just flamebait, but I feel that some people may benefit from a measured and fact-based answer. You, I think, have already reached your conclusions and any discussion to the contrary is wasted effort.


There are accounts that Judas did Jesus' bidding by bringing the authroities, and that the payment was as per Roman law - not some clandestine barter.

Charles Darwin did not turn on Jesus either -- he followed logic and tenable science to its conclusion. Darwin himself cited that if a "irreducibly complex" organism existed, it would support intelligent design.

Intelligent Design proponents cited the Flagellar Motor as evidence of God's hand in creation... it was a multi-cell machine used to propel organisms like e-coli.

Recently a paper was published observing a few very important considerations of the flagellar motor -- notably that the flagellum was hollow. This cellular component got its start as a secretory system element -- the longer the flagellum, the further the excrement was deposited away from the mouth parts of the cell. You can see why this is good...
Next, it is an easy conclusion to draw that having your waste-removal system twisted would be a bad thing... selecting for organisms which have less fixed / rotary flagellum connections. Ion pumps work in cells to move things ... nutrients in, waste out... logically again, the organism which puts more ion pumps near the flagellum to move waste out would have a better chance of survival. So there is no irreducibly complex argument in the flagellar motor, and Intelligent Design is still just a theory, and a much less provable theory than Evolution.

I apologize, but neither Judas nor Darwin "turned on Christ".


One of my personal favorite quotes:

"If anyone can show me, and prove to me, that I am wrong in thought or deed, I will gladly change. I seek the truth, which never yet hurt anybody. It is only persistence in self-delusion and ignorance which does harm."
Marcus Aurelius

2007-10-05 12:30:24 · answer #2 · answered by Ron M 2 · 1 0

I find it hard to believe that your faith is so weak that you cannot accept any scientific reasoning that casts any margin of doubt on the text of the Bible. God is far greater than words printed on a page by the hand of man. If our eyes see more clearly the works of his creation today than they did 3000 years ago, God is not diminished by our gain. As we unlock the secrets of the heavens and the Earth with the tools of science we do not betray God. We illuminate that which he has given us. Greatest among these gifts is our own minds. Don't be so weak in your faith that the truth of the world can destroy your image of God. God continues to exist regardless of how much science reveals about how the universe was really created. Darwin was a scientist who used the tools that God gave him to better understand the world. Yes there were many holes in his theory, but he provided a base of research that has spurred a new era of scientific learning. It is sad that so many people have let the dis correlation between scientific evidence and religious dogma create so much strife. It is not a betrayal to seek the truth. It is a betrayal to cling to something you know to be wrong. Why do so many people adhere to the false conception that either every word of the bible must be correct or none of them are. No one was around to remember the creation of the world. They made up a story to explain it. Every culture in the world has a creation myth. Is finding the truth really so damaging? It in no way impugns the rest of the bible, and has nothing to do with the time of Jesus.

2007-10-05 12:46:43 · answer #3 · answered by James L 7 · 1 0

Contrary to popular belief Charles Darwin believed in creation by God. He stated that life was "breathed by the creator" (direct quote from the Origin of the Species).

Darwin's theory was more to do with natural selection which he uses to explain the many and varied forms of life that came from the original created life forms. He did not invent the 'theory of evolution' that is simply a modern corruption of his book.
Go to your local library and ask for the book so you can check the quote yourself. look below in the source box for the info you will need.

2007-10-05 12:08:39 · answer #4 · answered by Xena 2 · 1 0

Judas was used by God and Jesus to tum Jesus in. It was not Judas' will to wrong Jesus. Judas became the most hated man in Christian history when, in fact, he gave up everything to take away our sins.

Darwin was a very bright and determined scientist who suffered years of ridicule and death threats because of his stand on evolution. Thank God he didn't live during the Inquisition or all would have been lost. Like you, much of the church hates science but they do go to the hospital for care made available by science.

2007-10-05 12:12:18 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Judas did not "turn" on Christ. He did exactly what his friend told him to do. The Christian story of Judas is one of the most absurd things ever written. And I have based my opinion of this on the Christian teachings. Email me if you want a better explanation.

So, I guess if you believe in such fables, then yes, Darwin has to have been like Judas in that Christians believe God sees all, controls all and knows everything, and as such, god created Darwin to be just what he was and think just as he did.

2007-10-05 12:00:43 · answer #6 · answered by Gem 7 · 1 1

Darwin was just a scientist that noticed something. And he was a religious man too. Did Newton betray Jesus for noticing gravity? What kind of stone age question is this? And FYI, Judas was not the guy who put Jesus on the cross. The religious leadership insisted on it, like they do on creationism today.

2007-10-05 12:03:00 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Charles Darwin may have offended the norms of established doctrines of the Church but he held out the courage of his conviction to point out that evolution was in progress, and he was vindicated by the Church in the end, much like Galileo was proven right that the Earth is round.

2007-10-05 12:02:29 · answer #8 · answered by Lance 5 · 2 0

Not really. Many people in Darwin's time recognised that living organisms are related by descent. Darwin just elucidated the mechanism involved.

2007-10-05 12:08:00 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I have never heard it put that way. No I don't think Darwin is like Judas, can you blame someone for wanting to know and theorizing about the truth.

2007-10-05 11:58:19 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

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