If the finite cause of the universe is labeled as God. If creation theorists insist God created us, the planet, the universe because of its complexity. If the idea that we all just happened, the universe just happened, is impossible and impracticle to believe.
Can some one explain where did God come from?
He have a few brothers and sisters running individual universal ant farms of their own?
It seems christians refuse to beleive we evolved through an 8 billion year universal evolutionary process because God started it all, excuse me, intelligently designed it all.
If they refuse to believe, they just "happened," how can they suspend beleif to believe He just "happened?"
2007-10-05 04:29:03 · 17 answers · asked by jace 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
jeancomminucates:
Before 1999, astronomers had estimated that the age of the universe was between 7 and 20 billion years. But with advances in technology and the development of new techniques we now know the age of the universe is 13.7 billion years, with an uncertainty of only 200 million years. How did this come to be?
Early estimates of the Age of the Universe
In the 1920's Edwin Hubble discovered the expansion of the universe. He found that galaxies which are further away are moving at a higher speed following the law, v=Hod, where v is the velocity in km/s, d is the distance in Mpc, and Ho is the Hubble constant in km/s/Mpc. By independently measuring the velocity and distances to galaxies, the value of Ho could be determined. Astronomers further determined that the age of the universe is related to Hubble's constant, and that it is between 1/Ho and 2/3Ho depending on cosmological models adopted. The velocity could be determined via the redshift in the spectrum. ...
2007-10-05 05:00:08 · update #1
...The distance to the galaxy can be determined using observations of certain types of pulsating stars, called Cepheids, whose instrinsic brightness is related to the period of their brightness variation. However, the accuracy of the distance measurement was hampered by how faint ground based telescopes could see. Up until the 1990's, the best estimates for Ho were between 50 km/s/Mpc and 90 km/s/Mpc, giving a range on the age of the universe between 7 and 20 billion years.
Enter the Hubble Space Telescope
So in 1993, the orbiting Hubble Space Telescope began a "key project" to obtain distances to the Cepheids in 18 galaxies. Astronomers were able to obtain for the first time more precise distances, and a more accurate value of Ho. In 1999 after several years of observations with HST astronomers were able to estimate Ho to be 71 km/s/Mpc within 10% uncertainty, one of the greatest achievements of modern astronomy. Extrapolating back to the Big Bang, that value of Ho implied an age
2007-10-05 05:00:56 · update #2
...of the universe between 7 and 20 billion years.
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/features/exhibit/tenyear/age.html
2007-10-05 05:01:26 · update #3
Excellent question. As an Agnostic, I really can't give an answer. When I was an active Christian I wouldn't have been able to give you an answer either, I hated that about my religion.
My youth group, in high school, would get annoyed with me because I would ask too many questions, "What do you mean God has always existed? What was he doing before he created our universe? Are there other universes? What makes you so sure there is a God? Etc..."
Who's to say there aren't other God's running around creating and running ant farms? Really no one has all the answers, and I don't believe people who say they do. No one really knows where we came from. Evolution is the only thing that really makes any sense to me, but then I want to have faith in something other than a monkey that could be my long lost cousin.
2007-10-05 04:38:08 · answer #1 · answered by angiemedic56 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You know, the current fractal maps of the universe are starting to resemble a brain cell.
This would be somewhat relevant to the discussion of Theism, Creationism, and all that stuff, you think?
We could go back and forth, tic for tac, and fail to make any progress. All these types of loaded questions do is keep people from going forward.
Does it really even matter if we came from apes or from a single devine moment? The fact is, we are here. If you choose to give thanks to a creator and worship him, that's your right. If you choose to believe it was all a butterfly effect, that's your right. If you choose to ignore the progress that humans are making so you can continue believing what you choose, that's also your right. It's your right to still be using Windows 98. It's your right to drive a classic car. It's your right to live in the past.
It's not a right to antagonize others for the choices they make. You, yourself aren't walking a path when you make that choice and act on it... you are consciously slowing down others. Whether they are headed for doom or divinity isn't your concern, as you never really know if you're moving towards doom or divinity yourself. You are to have FAITH that your God has your best interests in mind. That's the whole point.
Whether you believe that a white-haired guy with a long beard said in perfect english diction, "Let there be light!" or the big bang (Which caused a lot of light) isn't relevant. People find their own paths. Some go shallow, some go deeper. Some never find their answers. Some people believe they've heard the voice of god. Some people claim to have it on their hard drives.
Click the link, give it some thought. If it was just a big, random BANG with no design plan, how would you explain it? What is the connection between living cells and astronomy? Is there one? How can you be sure? What sources can you provide to back up your theory?
Right now, the whole Intelligent Design argument is kinda ahead on points... fyi.
2007-10-05 11:58:49 · answer #2 · answered by Erad 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
What, on this earth or out in that universe that you can see, makes you believe in an 8 billion year universe?
I don't believe anyone can give you an answer to the question that you are asking because God's ways and being is higher and way more intelligent than our ways. God does say that He has always been around. God says He is the beginning and the end of everything. God says He is the first and the last. He is trying to give you an answer that He knows cannot be understood by you so He answers in your capability.
2007-10-05 11:41:28 · answer #3 · answered by Jeancommunicates 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think the difference is that they want to believe that there is more of a purpose to life; the God theory means everything was designed and has meaning... the Big Bang means some random stuff happened and life was just an accident that the universe will probably clean up some day... Its not so much about which is more realistic... Its about which possibility they would prefer to believe in.
For all we know, God is the Universe... so both the thiests and athiests are right...
2007-10-05 11:34:30 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
I am sure God laughs at your human logic as He climbs out of the laboratory test tube you put Him in.
God is a Spirit. A Spirit does not consist of matter. I do not know where God came from and I do not have to know. I am sure he could explain it all to me, but my head would probably explode. How could a finite human mind ever understand an infinite God?
God is God, His Creation is not.
Worship Him, not His Creation.
God bless you.
2007-10-05 11:40:12 · answer #5 · answered by the sower 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
He always was. He does not exist in time. He created time. We understand things in relation to time because we are in time. God is Spirit. He is not physical. He is not subject to the limitations that He created. Including the laws of the universe which are His laws.
2007-10-05 11:35:20 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
God has no beginnings. Jesus said He is the alpha and the omega. God is perfection, so how can He have a beginning. He is infinite, we are finite. What we understand about Him cannot transcend human reality in all life times. In the end, it is faith that sustains us. No genius can even transcend faith, humans being what we are.
2007-10-05 11:39:26 · answer #7 · answered by Lance 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
this is, in fact, one of the many reasons I "question" my faith.... because of questions like "If god created everything then who created god" type stuff. I dont really believe in the whole "Darwin-evolution-we come from monkeys" type thing either. Sorry!
2007-10-05 11:39:58 · answer #8 · answered by pure&simple 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
u cant explain God. Our minds are too human to even comprehend the actuality of God.
Its like putting all the water in the ocean into a bucket.
2007-10-05 11:34:13 · answer #9 · answered by sono 2 · 2⤊ 1⤋
the greatest evidence that humans evolved from apes is that some still refuse, in the face of overwhelming evidence, to believe it so.
2007-10-05 11:35:40 · answer #10 · answered by Free Radical 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋