Who was pharoah during the Exodus?

Question

I know scholars don't believe it was Ramases. Even Bible scholars don't believe this. Then what is Rameses in Numbers 33:3. "The following are the stages by which the Israelites journeyed up by companies from the land of Egypt under the guidance of Moses and Aaron. By the LORD'S command Moses recorded the starting places of the various stages. The starting places of the successive stages were: They set out from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month. On the Passover morrow the Israelites went forth in triumph, in view of all Egypt,"

The Egyptians were NOT great record keepers. I'm studying to be an Egyptologist

They showed pharaohs at war who never went to war. Rameses put his name on everything he saw. They never wrote bad events because writing something down made it sacred (writing was sacred) and all that was sacred would repeat itself. So if they wrote something down they believed it would happen again. It doesn't seem likely they would record something so bad.

Hatshepsut is only cool to scholars because she left lots of statues. She wasn't the first female pharaoh. Most Egyptians hated her.

I wondered it it were a place. Probably something Ramases built.

Some people believe it was Hatshepsut because she had no son.

Answer 1

The buy-bull says it was Ramses, but then again, there are so many inconsistencies in there that who knows what to believe.

I bet it was Hatshepsut. Just because she's cool.

edit: Since I'm not Egyptian, am I allowed to like her? I think Punt is one awesome place and she's the one who sent out people to find it.

Answer 2

The Term Rameses is recorded 3 times in Scripture Genesis 47:11, Exodus 12:37 and Numbers 33:3. As a place of Rameses (Egypt). The First encounter is with Joseph whose remains were also taken by the Hebrew Israelites in the Exodus. The people of Israel remained captive 400 years and there could have been more than one Pharaoh named Rameses. Babylonian Trade records to Egypt mention Ramses as a real person.

Answer 3

Nobody seems to be certain. Although the Exodus can be approximately dated, there remains disagreement among Biblical historians as to not just the year, but the century when it happened - various researchers sometimes differ by as much as two hundred years.

This causes uncertainty regarding the identity of the unnamed Pharaoh that opposed Moses and Aaron during The Ten Plagues and The Passover In Egypt and Wilderness Journey

I've heard Amenhotep II, Merneptah, Thothmes III and Rameses II, among others, which have all been suggested as possibilities.

If I was really going to spend time researching this - I'd check Jewish sources first.

Answer 4

It would be a location or city.

Please note: Hebrew culture didn't leave any traces until the 13th to 12th century BCE. The oldest reference to them is the Victory Stella dated in the 13th century.

The ancient Egyptians have no recording of anything to do with the Hebrews being there for any length of time, there is a single reference to a people they called the h'abiur or similar (the exact spelling escapes me) who were a nomadic people begging for water on one of the borders. This is the extent of the evidence for the Hebrews in Egypt. The exact exodus route is not known and up for discussion but several sites mentioned on it are well known/identifiable and have been excavated with no evidence of ever being a camp site of the exodus.

Edit:
While an interesting article: "http://allanturner.com/pharaoh.html"
it does build on several assumptions, I would want to thoroughly research it's claims before accepting them. While amateurs occasionally find something missed by others (this may be a very generous statement), it is extremely unlikely that they would know more then people that get paid and that stake their professional reputation on their findings. Not saying that this site is wrong, just that it is suspect until verified.

Answer 5

The Bible nowhere mentions the name of the pharaoh of the Exodus, but Bible students have always been curious as to who he was. No doubt, some Christians will be wary of trying to discover something the Bible has not clearly revealed; but in studying this question one can come away with his faith increased in the Bible as the unerring word of God. Although the Bible does not specifically name the pharaoh of the Exodus, enough data is supplied for us to be relatively sure who he was.

http://allanturner.com/pharaoh.html

Answer 6

Yul Brynner as Rameses, of course.

Answer 7

The Egyptians were great record keepers, and you'd think they'd have something about having Hebrew slaves. They do not. It's just another fairy tale.

good luck with your studies. lol

Answer 8

It never happened. There is absolutely no evidence the Egyptians ever had large numbers of slaves, let alone Hebrew slaves.