seems like the most of the atheists i see here do not believ e in prophets like Jesus, Muhammad etc......while I respect that, I wonder to myself where do you think these prophets came from? If you say it's man then..... do you think that man could have started this same messege and keep going all these generations? some prophets came within hundreds, thousand yrs apart from the other.What is your reason why you discredit these men who are religously historical ?............
Or if you do acknowledge their presence , how can you still deny god? Do you ever wonder though about these things and think this came from somewhere and look into it deeply even if you think that man alterd the religon for his own good ( which you would be mad at the person and not god)
2007-10-05 02:23:29 · 20 answers · asked by mna 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
First of all, it is important to take into account that there is still a lot of discussion about if someone like Jesus really existed or not. Even if we reached some consensus about his existence it would be more difficult to prove (if not impossible, given the evidence) that Jesus was the god's son, because first we have to prove that god exists (which each day seems more improbable). If existed he was just a man. How could have that man started that message that has survived for long time? easy, don't be fooled, it was not a man, in fact it was not Jesus (if existed). It has been a group of people very interested in benefiting from this story. Shakira is not just Shakira is a big group of people behind her selling her image. It is the same with Jesus, be careful. Remember that since a lot of time ago, religion has served to one group to keep others quiet or to take money from them. Think about it. Even the so-called Jesus's message of love is being used just in the last decades, let me remind you that even till some few decades ago christian churches still supported violence, racism and chauvinistic positions!. So the message that you are talking about became popular just recently, times change and ways of benefiting from naive people do the same
2007-10-05 02:47:19 · answer #1 · answered by Kaves L 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Given that there is no real evidence that what these prophets said is true and that religions have existed through out history, I'd say that it is more than plausible that it is totally man made.
There are two things that you need to examine objectively about your claims: 1. Do these "prophets" actually proclaim the same message? I'd submit that Jesus and Muhammad may share some points but the basis of what they taught is very different.
2. If you say that the Abrahamic prophets are "right" because they proclaim nearly the same message, what about the hundreds of Sun or Moon based religions all with their attendant prophets and similarity of message?
I would say that religion is 100% man made and that there is no evidence to support the hypothesis for any deity.
2007-10-05 02:37:33 · answer #2 · answered by Pirate AM™ 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
As an atheist, I'll admit that these were obviously extraordinary men behind these traditions that changed the world. But look at your own question - "prophets like Jesus, Muhammad etc" - don't you see that the mere fact that there are many such men, all at loggerheads with each other, proves that no single one of them could possibly be "correct"? If Jesus is "the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no man cometh unto the Father but by him," then how can it also be true that "there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is His prophet"? If you pick sides in the controversy, then you can't use the argument that your side must be true because many people have believed in it for a long time - because the other side can make exactly the same claim.
2007-10-05 02:27:58 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 10⤊ 0⤋
I don't discount that the prophets didn't live. I think the did live and I think they did do great things for people. I also know humans and how a story gets stretched for person to person. Most of the stories back then were hear say until it got written down. Now everyone knows the game played in first grade where the teacher tells the first person a sentence and it goes around the room, to come out completely wrong. This is between 25-30 people over 5 minutes, these stories of your prophets are between 100's over 1000's of years.
2007-10-05 02:34:06 · answer #4 · answered by joe d 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Gods do not exist. The Old Testament is part myth, part pseudo-history, a tiny bit of ACTUAL history, and some morality tales. It represents the myths, superstitions, fairy-tales and fantastical delusions of an ignorant gaggle of Bronze Age fishermen and wandering, militant, marauding, genocidal goat-herders.
The New Testament is a fraud... the Gospeld are fiction... Jesus is fiction... christianity is a complete fraud... a criminal business enterprise whose main purpose is to keep its gullible victims steeped in ignorance... so that they can collect the 10% tithe.
Prophets are bogus... ALL of them. Some of them were simply liars... others were probably just demented, or hallucinating, under the influence of 'rye ergot'.
Islam was invented because power-seeking men saw that the mind-manipulation techniques of the christ-cult were very effective... so those techniques were implemented with the invention of a NEW prophet.
OK... you need to think about this... really THINK... you dismiss all of the thousands of OTHER gods and godesses asa myths and superstitions. You dismiss all of the OTHER supernatural entities who are claimed to be the creator of the world and the universe. You dismiss all the OTHER stories of how everything has come to be. But get this... MANY of those entities, those stories, are LESS ridiculous that the one the one that YOU cling to.
You believe that a cosmic Jewish zombie, who is his own father, can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced, by a talking snake with legs, to eat a piece of fruit from a magical tree... (etc.)... and that there is something horribly wrong with people who ARE NOT so gullible and droolingly stupid as to believe such outrageously ridiculous codswallop.
You DO know that's insane... right? You are a VICTIM.
2007-10-05 04:23:44 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
i believe that these people did exist and that they were very good men that helped alot of people in many ways, the things that i do not believe however is the magic that some believe they did and the fact that some believe they are profits. If they were profits, how come there are none now. It is very easy to understand (for me at least) how people think this way. It is just like the telephone game, a story is told and over time being passed along from one person to another the story is changed to express someones own personal beliefs and feelings and also to make the story better. In short i do believe that there was a Jesus, but he was not born to a virgin unless she artificially inseminated herself, and he was not the son of God, he was a normal human that happened to be a great, kind, loving individual who taught the less fortunate how to survive and help to provide for them.
2007-10-05 02:38:03 · answer #6 · answered by CSND 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Sure. Man made religion, this is my view only, im not saying it as fact or as false. Back hundreds of years ago, as our intelligence grows through time as i believe, many people back that could of been so gullible, people could of wondered just like us but nothing having the amount of logical and some of us today have, could of thought of reasons for why everything is the way it is. Made up religion, and thought up of a god. and wrote it all down so they wouldnt forget.
Remember one time the smartest at the time thought the earth was flat? they were wrong, what makes you think people arent wrong with god?
I cannot explain fully why everything is why it is, just like everyone else cant.
2007-10-05 02:30:56 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Some would say that Martin Luther King, Jr. was a prophet of sorts, but certainly not a god. I do believe that Jesus lived. but I believe that he was a mortal man, not a god and certainly not the son of God. He was a man that accomplished amazing things but that doesn't make him a deity.
2007-10-05 02:31:15 · answer #8 · answered by OhKatie! 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
There are people who say they are prophet's everyday currently. They can say they are prophets because the books, teachings, and history of the faith(s) have been taught generation to generation.
It's not like Jesus (whom I don't believe existed) magically came up with a god-he was a jew.
It's not like mohammed came up with a brand new god either. They based their propoganda on things people already believed, just like the so-called prophets do today.
2007-10-05 02:27:51 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
People who believe in a particular set of assumptions, when those assumptions are unverifiable and metaphysical in nature, will look for support for those assumptions wherever possible.
Bear in mind that prophets are people who claim, or are claimed by believers, to speak the word of God. Since atheists do not believe that God exists, they don't believe there is a "word of God," and therefore, do not believe that prophets speak it.
In order to believe in prophets, then, one has to believe in God.
2007-10-05 02:31:36 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋