A serious question for Baptists?

Question

I'm trying hard to understand something. A relative (who is white) recently married a nice young man who is black. Another relative is devastated, but won't talk to me about it. Now the couple is expecting a baby, and this other relative is just inconsolable. I think it goes way beyond bigotry. I know there are religions out there that think blacks don't go to heaven, and some that think heaven is "segregated". Do really hard-core Baptists think this? Is it possible she thinks the baby will wind up in some type of limbo in the afterlife?

It isn't possible for me to talk to her about it. We've fought far too much about religion in the past, and it's a VERY sore subject for us.

Thanks for your help.

Thanks to everyone so far, but Chemcook and Blue Skies are coming closer to answering my question. I want to emphasize that this relative is WAY out there in her beliefs. She was told BY HER MINISTER to disown her mother, not speak to her, not set foot in her house, and not let her children see her, all because her mother was a Jehovah's Witness. She thinks anyone that doesn't believe EXACTLY as she does is doomed to hell---this includes all other christians. Just to let you know the type of church this is.

The baby has upset her much more than the marriage, which is why I think the "limbo" idea might be possible.

If there is anyone out there who DOES believe this, can you explain it to me?

Thanks to everyone so far for your answers. I'm still curious to hear from someone who actually believes in a segregated heaven. I'm just trying to understand. Is it based on a particular scripture?

Please understand that we're talking about someone else's beliefs, not mine. I'm just trying to figure out the basis for them.

Also, I know when they first picked up these beliefs, their preacher followed Jerry Falwell very closely. They are at a different church now, but they are still Baptists.

Thanks again!

Answer 1

The Southern Baptist religion was created when it split from the Baptist Church over the matter of slavery. Southern Baptists have a history of thinking blacks are inferior, or at the least that races "shouldn't mix". It may be 2007 to the rest of the world, but bigotry is still there under the hymnals.

Answer 2

Jesus died for all and all can go to heaven if they accept him

The Baptist chruch teaches that

Sadly this country still has pockets of rasist areas that think less of people unlike then.

The only religion that doesnt allow blacks is Mormonism
They believe it is a curse and that they are Satans followers
If a black person became a momrom and was a good one they would turn white.

Brigham Young said Journal of discourses Vol 10 Pg 110
Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so.

The Lord said, I will not kill Cain, but I will put a mark upon him, and that mark will be seen upon the face of every ***** upon the face of the earth; and it is the decree of God that that mark shall remain upon the seed of Cain until the seed of Abel shall be redeemed, and Cain shall not receive the Priesthood, until the time of that redemption. Any man having one drop of the seed of Cain in him cannot receive the Priesthood; but the day will come when all that race will be redeemed and possess all the blessings which we now have.

Author: Joseph Fielding Smith
Source: Way To Perfection
Page: 106

As a result of his rebellion, Cain was cursed and told that "the earth" would not thereafter yield him its abundance as previously. In addition he became the first mortal to be cursed as a son of perdition. As a result of his mortal birth he is assured of a tangible body of flesh and bones in eternity, a fact which will enable him to rule over Satan. The Lord placed on Cain a mark of a dark skin, and he became the ancestor of the black race.

Author: Bruce R. McConkie
Source: Mormon Doctrine
Page: 102

Why is it in this Church we do not grant the priesthood to the Negroes? It is alleged that the Prophet Joseph said—and I have no reason to dispute it—that it is because of some act committed by them before they came into this life. It is alleged that they were neutral, standing neither for Christ nor the devil. But, I am convinced it is because of some things they did before they came into this life that they have been denied the privilege. The races of today are very largely reaping the consequence of a previous life.

Author: Melvin Joseph Ballard
Source: Sermons and Missionary Services
Page: 248

out of the mouths of thier prophets

Answer 3

I've never heard of Baptists believing black people do not go to heaven or that heaven is segregated. I think the Queen of Sheba was black and Solomon was brown.

Do people not realize that we all come from the skin color of medium or olive skinned which is half way between white and black? Has not DNA proven that we are all created equal as God told us that He has no partiality?

Back to the skin. The colors vary from light white to dark white and light black to dark black but the medium color is brown like the people in the Middle East. Mitochrondria DNA went all the way back to that cell that would not divide and called that cell Eve. Black is just a variation from white with brown in the middle. Study skin pigmentation.

Now, this has nothing to do with religion and it has nothing to do with God, but the problem with today's society is that when blacks and whites marry, the relatives become the problem. Grandma has a problem accepting a white granddaughter-in-law, etc. Black grandmas are just as bad as white grandmas.
My mother was so against whites and blacks marrying that I told my daughters to avoid having black boyfriends because their grandmother would never accept them. If your family is still not accepting, then it is best not to date the opposite. It is hard enough to stay married when the entire family is accepting. The divorce rate in Christians today is abnormal.
God does not accept divorce yet Christians divorce today just like non-believers. And they divorce because of infidelity.
The churches are not teaching the ways of the Lord.

Where this thought comes from is Israel was told not to take a wife from outside the tribes of Israel. Israel was to be a perfect people for God, but they couldn't and that is why God sent Jesus. The Ten Commandments showed us our sins and we couldn't keep the commandments so Jesus took the sins away so by His grace we could be saved from the sin of death.

I hope this helps. God doesn't see color. God sees Jesus in us.

Answer 4

Are there some Baptists out there who believe this? Possibly. If you look hard enough you can find someone who will believe anything, no matter how wrong it is. Do a lot of Baptists believe this? of course not. You will find individuals who are racist in any denomination, but they do not represent the beliefs of everyone.

Answer 5

In 1995, Southern Baptists adopted a resolution to renounce its racist past. It's possible that racism exists in the church today, despite subtleties, which is a real shame to think it still exists.

Answer 6

they are intense. they are blind and misguided, yet they are certainly intense. I disagree jointly with your 0.33 sentence on various levels. gay interest is a sin, continually has been a sin, and continually would be a sin. As a conservative Christian, i don't embody the ideology of the enemy of my enemy is my chum. I embody the ideology that all and sundry sinners % a savior no remember if or not they are homosexuals or WBC. I pray for the two communities to settle for the loose present of salvation from Jesus Christ. in elementary terms a fool (or somebody who has been fooled) believes that Christianity is altered in its ideals via an intensive team like WBC. I dislike stomping on the flag. There are a ways too lots of people who've died decrease than that flag. yet, those comparable human beings died protecting the remarkable of the WBC to stomp on that flag. the persons who you look to think of at the instant are not intense are the conservative Christians. i will assure you that we are.

Answer 7

regardless if they're a baptist or not, a for a true child of God that has a real intimate relationship with Jesus Christ..this type of behavior will not be named among that child of God. Denominations were created by man and not God...

There is no segregated heaven or after life....it's either you spend eternity with God or separated away from God in eternal darkness

Answer 8

this has nothing to do with being baptist....by the way .. i am not one....

but i do know there are plenty of black baptist people so thinking that blacks don't go to heaven makes no sense...

the relative is more concerned with racial issues...the baby being teased for being a "half breed" when they grow up, etc.

Answer 9

I am a Baptist/Calvinistic Christian.

I am in no way a bigot. This is wrong thinking on their part for doing this. Racism should have no place in Christianity at all.

Speak the truth in love when you talk about it.

Answer 10

I'm Southern Baptist, and we believe all are equal brothers and sisters in Christ regardless of race or heritage. My church is open to everyone.

This isn't a "Baptist" belief. It's individual racism.