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when i discuss trinity with christians they tell me that i need to have faith to understand it ,if i became a christian i would get holyspirit inside me and i would understand ,yet they say its a mystery and none understand it ,i see that is cintradiction do you?

2007-09-28 09:18:36 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The Trinity is a man-made concept, and it is idolatry, for Jews and Muslims both.

2007-09-28 09:22:12 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 4

No..it's said by someone who accepted it and STILL doesn't understand.

The trinity is God the Father/Creator, Jesus the Son/savior, and The Holy Spirit who works as a "messenger" of sorts for God.

There is much debate whether God is 1 being with 3 seperate parts which make the trinity...or whether Jesus and The Holy Spirit work with God for a common goal which would make up the 3...

Personally, I don't understand how God can be 1 being with 3 seperate parts when in the bible it said God sent Jesus(making Him 2 parts) and after Jesus went back to Heaven the Holy Spirit was sent to the apostles....which makes it 3 parts...

2007-09-28 09:29:13 · answer #2 · answered by Love Yahoo!!! is a prince 3 · 1 0

the trinity is composed of One God with three personalities, The are one in spirit , Unity and fellowship. One cannot act outside the other they are in complete unity. Cannot be seperated or divided. One yet with three different woks. The Father as almight God , the son as our Advocate with the Father and the Holy Spirit as the one who compels the lost to Christ.

2007-09-28 09:26:32 · answer #3 · answered by s. grant 4 · 0 0

Iam a Catholic Christian and understand the Trinity perfectly. God the Father, God the Son(Jesus) God the Holy Spirit equals God Almighty.

2007-09-28 09:22:25 · answer #4 · answered by tebone0315 7 · 1 1

Okay I shall try to be of some help in this matter, firstly there is ample proof of a Triune God throughout scripture and even though it will make this answer long I have to show some. St. John's testimony is very explicit , He expressly asserts that the very purpose of his Gospel is to establish the Divinity of Jesus Christ (John 20:31). In the prologue he identifies Him with the Word, the only-begotten of the Father, Who from all eternity exists with God, Who is God (John 1:1-18). The immanence of the Son in the Father and of the Father in the Son is declared in Christ's words to St. Philip: "Do you not believe, that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me?" (14:10), and in other passages no less explicit (14:7; 16:15; 17:21). The oneness of Their power and Their action is affirmed: "Whatever he [the Father] does, the Son also does in like manner" (5:19, cf. 10:38); and to the Son no less than to the Father belongs the Divine attribute of conferring life on whom He will (5:21). In 10:29, Christ expressly teaches His unity of essence with the Father: "That which my Father hath given me, is greater than all . . . I and the Father are one." The words, "That which my Father hath given me," can, having regard to the context, have no other meaning than the Divine Name, possessed in its fullness by the Son as by the Father.

Rationalist critics lay great stress upon the text: "The Father is greater than I" (14:28). They argue that this suffices to establish that the author of the Gospel held subordinationist views, and they expound in this sense certain texts in which the Son declares His dependence on the Father (5:19; 8:28). In point of fact the doctrine of the Incarnation involves that, in regard of His Human Nature, the Son should be less than the Father. No argument against Catholic doctrine can, therefore, be drawn from this text. So too, the passages referring to the dependence of the Son upon the Father do but express what is essential to Trinitarian dogma, namely, that the Father is the supreme source from Whom the Divine Nature and perfections flow to the Son. (On the essential difference between St. John's doctrine as to the Person of Christ and the Logos doctrine of the Alexandrine Philo, to which many Rationalists have attempted to trace it, see LOGOS.)

In regard to the Third Person of the Blessed Trinity, the passages which can be cited from the Synoptists as attesting His distinct personality are few. The words of Gabriel (Luke 1:35), having regard to the use of the term, "the Spirit," in the Old Testament, to signify God as operative in His creatures, can hardly be said to contain a definite revelation of the doctrine. For the same reason it is dubious whether Christ's warning to the Pharisees as regards blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (Matthew 12:31) can be brought forward as proof. But in Luke 12:12, "The Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what you must say" (Matthew 10:20, and Luke 24:49), His personality is clearly implied. These passages, taken in connection with Matthew 28:19, postulate the existence of such teaching as we find in the discourses in the Cenacle reported by St. John (14, 15, 16). We have in these chapters the necessary preparation for the baptismal commission. In them the Apostles are instructed not only as the personality of the Spirit, but as to His office towards the Church. His work is to teach whatsoever He shall hear (16:13) to bring back their minds the teaching of Christ (14:26), to convince the world of sin (16:8). It is evident that, were the Spirit not a Person, Christ could not have spoken of His presence with the Apostles as comparable to His own presence with them (14:16). Again, were He not a Divine Person it could not have been expedient for the Apostles that Christ should leave them, and the Paraclete take His place (16:7). Moreover, notwithstanding the neuter form of the word (pneuma), the pronoun used in His regard is the masculine ekeinos. The distinction of the Holy Spirit from the Father and from the Son is involved in the express statements that He proceeds from the Father and is sent by the Son (15:26; cf. 14:16, 14:26). Nevertheless, He is one with Them: His presence with the Disciples is at the same time the presence of the Son (14:17-18), while the presence of the Son is the presence of the Father (14:23).

2007-09-28 09:29:18 · answer #5 · answered by Sentinel 7 · 0 0

I think some who say this do contradict themselves... however there are many who simply mean that when you are saved you'll understand that it is true because you will come to know and experience all three members at some ponit or another. However, no human, saved or otherwise, can truely understand how 3 people can be 1 God. It's just something that you know is true when you get to know Him.

2007-09-28 09:23:23 · answer #6 · answered by Matthew P (SL) 4 · 0 1

No once you are willing to trust God and invite him into your heart then you will have a better understanding of the trinity up untill then you will not be able to understand it at all.

2007-09-28 09:23:00 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Isaiah 48
16Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.
( God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are three but are one at the same time for the all have the same character just different roles.)

2007-09-28 09:23:53 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

the trinity is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy spirit. He is all three

2007-09-28 09:25:30 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It is a catch 22. You can't get A without B but you need B to get A.

2007-09-28 09:22:05 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

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