what keeps yall in line? the whole right vs wrong? it came from religion...God was the one who said not to steal,kill etc...but if u dont believe in God....why do u follow right and wrong rules? who is to say what is right and wrong? Man just came up with it on his own?
Also if u dont believe in a consequence when u die then why not do whatever you want in life?
this is a real question please no ignorant remarks
i was just curious
sincere answers ONLY
2007-09-28 07:56:11 · 43 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I SEE U GUYS ARE NOT ANSWERING CORRECTLY....DID ANY ONE READ THE BOOK "LORD OF THE FLIES" IT WAS AN ARGUMENT THAT PEOPLE ARE BORN EVIL AND LEARN GOOD...SO HOW DO U KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG?
U TEACH A CHILD WHATS RIGHT AND WRONG
IF U DONT THEY GROW UP TO BE BAD RIGHT?
DOES ANYONE UNDERSTAND NOW????/
2007-09-28 08:03:48 · update #1
PLEASE DO NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION WITH A QUESTION...
I SEE NO ONE UNDEERSTANDS THE QUESTION
I DID NOT ASK U ABOUT THE BIBLE AND WHAT IT SAID AND IF U BELIEVE IT OR NOT
I ASKED WHERE DID U GET RIGHT AND WRONG FROM
OBVIOUSLY NOT ONE OF U IS WORTHY OF +10
2007-09-28 08:23:13 · update #2
GOD ROCKS!!!!!!!!
2007-09-28 08:00:00 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 10⤋
Noone has figured out right from wrong on their own, and those that are claiming it is full of it.
We are taught right from wrong from a variety of places. A lot of people get their values from their religion. Society has a lot to do with what we view as right and wrong too.
I love it when some people claim they know right from wrong for themselves and its "scary" that people say they need religion to know it.
You live in a society that has taught you right from wrong based a lot on religious morals we have adopted as a society. So even if you arent religious your morality has been impacted by religion.
If you grew up your whole life in a different culture, society or religion, your views on right and wrong would most likely be very very different regardless of whether you are a christian now or an atheist.
We all learn right vs wrong from somewhere so everyone that claims that only the religious are being brainwashed into their versions of right and wrong need to realize that as a child you were taught by someone what was right vs wrong as well. You dont have some special internal knowledge just because you say you are an atheist.
Why is the version of right vs wrong you were taught any more valid then that of someone that was raised in a religion and got their perspective from religion?
2007-09-28 08:04:04 · answer #2 · answered by cadisneygirl 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
It is hard to believe that this is really a sincere question as it has been asked and answered so many times before.
I decide what is right and wrong. I also have to live with the laws and law enforcement of my country of residence.
Who says I don't believe in consequences? My personal ethics aside, if I go outside and kill someone then the laws of this country has something to say about that and will try to arrest me and put me in jail. I may decide I want to try to prevent that, so I need to go on the run. Either way there are definite consequences.
In addition it is against my personal ethics to murder someone. These ethics come from society and what I have seen, learned and thought out. At a simplistic level this is the golden rule. If I do not want people to murder me, then that rules has to apply to everyone in society, including myself. So I can not murder others.
In addition, since I think that ther is no life after death, then killing someone ends their existence. What could be worse than that?
Edit:
Yes I have read LOTF. It was actually one of my O level English Lit books, so I studied it quite closely.
Golding gives (as all fiction authors do) and opinion, not necessarily a fact.
It is about the internal conflict between our 'feral' base instincts, the ones you think that your belief in god suppresses, and the rational thought processes of the higher brain functions, that let us see the advantages of cooperation and a society governed by laws.
Golding points out that in stressful situations, where our survival is threatened, the base instincts come to the fore. However, this is at a cost to society, and the ability to predict and improve is lost to Jack's tribe.
There is no 'evil' or 'good' just actions that stop societies from expanding and improving, and those that help. We give them labels of 'evil' and 'good' to make it simple for those who have not fully thought though this process.
Is slavery evil?
150 years ago, was it evil? What about in Britain? What about in America?
Same question, but 250 years ago?
2007-09-28 08:06:40 · answer #3 · answered by Simon T 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Firstly I assume you're talking about the ten commandments. You do realise that people knew the difference between right and wrong before this, right? The golden rule is much older than this.
And The Lord of the Flies, although a good book, is a work of fiction.
2007-09-28 08:44:30 · answer #4 · answered by The Truth 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
So, are you saying that there was no Law before Moses wrote down the ten commandments?
"Also if u dont believe in a consequence when u die then why not do whatever you want in life?"
You have to think there is an After life to fear what will happen when you die!
Over and over again the bible says "the wages of sin is Death"
One life is enough for me!
2007-09-28 08:10:35 · answer #5 · answered by DrMichael 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
You've never taken a sociology class or you would know that morals are a product of socialization. They developed to band societies together and allow people to live in groups. After all, groups survive much better than individuals and allow many advantages such as specialization, protection, etc.
No divinity required.
Edit: Lol, so we're wrong because we don't agree with you. And then you cite a FICTIONAL book to back you up. Way to go, you've just proved yourself extremely ignorant. People are not born good or evil. They are born with an instinct to survive and reproduce. The best way to survive is through grouping together, thus morality formed in response to the need for a cohesive way to live together.
2007-09-28 08:00:37 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 0⤋
Well religion came from man, so you answered your own part of "man just came up with them".
Some places without religion are very capable of having a civilized society. Actually more friendly since there exists no opposition.
Man can make rules, and man has made rules. If no religion ever existed any reasonably intelligent man would question where he came from, how he got there, and where he goes when he dies, if anywhere.
Give mankind more credit to our intelligence.
BTW, I am NOT an atheist, but I just really liked your question.
2007-09-28 08:08:11 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Right and wrong did not come from religion.
Religion is man-made, so men are the ones who wrote those morals into various holy texts. How do you think they got there?
Humans are endowed with a natural sense of right and wrong.
I am an atheist, and when I do something wrong, I feel bad. That's how I know it's wrong. When I do something right, I feel good. Same thing.
I don't have to be threatened into behaving myself with fear of eternal suffering.
The feeling of not being able to look at myself in the mirror is more than enough to keep me in line.
And I think that if the only thing making you moral is other people threatening you, then you aren't truly moral.
2007-09-28 08:05:59 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
1) Golden Rule was developed by Aristotle YEARS before Christ. So, no....your god didn't say it first.
2) I follow the laws of my city, state, and country. All other laws do not apply.
3) It is socialogical...I was raised by parents who taught me right and wrong, I was told in school to follow the rules, and I did. They learned from their parents, and they learned from their parents, and so on.
4) I do whatever I want right now. I choose to follow the laws of my country. I choose to spend time with my family and friends.
Just because we CAN be some way, doesn't mean we WANT to.
I don't know a single atheist who wants to kill someone just because the bible says not to. That's just ridiculous.
Plus, how do you explain the religious people who don't follow the laws of this country, or the laws of your religion? People focus so much on us..but no one focuses on the problems lieing within your own belief system.
2007-09-28 08:04:47 · answer #9 · answered by Heck if I know! 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Right and wrong didn't come from religion. You are a Christian, your religion is only 2000 years old for X sake. Are you saying that without God you would just be running around murdering and stealing things? I think you need to spend less time in front of the Church.
2007-09-28 08:03:54 · answer #10 · answered by Jadochop 6 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Neither you nor I get our ideas of right and wrong from a religion. We get them from a combination of instinct and nurturing.
Just look at the last 2000 years and see how ethics have changed in that time, and always the Christians claim their present view is Biblical. 130 years ago, the Bible was used to justify slavery - because it actually does support the concept, but most people today realize slavery is wrong, even though the Bible didn't change.
2007-09-28 07:59:23 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 10⤊ 0⤋