I don't at all follow your logic.
Because Jesus cried out "My God My God, Why have you forsaken me?", this implies that he wasn't crucified?
How is it that you equate Mary with the Trinity?
If you're going to bash Christianity, make sure you're armed with the correct facts about what we believe first. When you don't, you make yourself look extremely ignorant.
Aiight.
2007-09-28 04:49:20
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answer #1
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answered by Scotty Doesnt Know 7
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Jesus the Lord was praying to the Father asking Him why He was forsaken as Jesus was then carrying all the sins of all the humans in the world on His shoulders and would be crucified in our place to pay for all these sins.
Think of it like, Father who is all-holy could not look down upon sin in Jesus for that moment only.
Jesus refers to the cup also to let it pass, this very cup is referred to again in Revelation as the cup of the wrath of God that will befall mankind at the end of this earth age. Jesus wanted this cup to pass aka not hurt humans but it is necessary and will happen in the end.
The Jews used to sacrifice lambs and other animals outside the Temple in Jerusalem once a year for their sins for the year.
Jesus was the worlds lamb and the last sacrifice needed for man's sin.
By the way, after reading some of the answers
I must add:
I and the Father are one.
This unity is referred to many times in the bible.
Jesus is the word, and the word was with God in the beginning.
Please realize, this is GOD we are talking about!
I think GOD can be Father, Son and Holy Spirit
3 in 1, and 1 with 3!!
HE IS GOD
Not like you, a mere human with a mere childish
human brain.
It dumbfounds me to think that some people cannot realize the total awesome ability of GOD who created ALL
the way he wants it to be,
you cannot put any LIMITS on God
or YOU look very small-minded indeed!!!!
2007-10-01 12:33:46
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answered by good day 4
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Forsaken means spiritually separated from the Godhead. God the Father had to forsake God the Son, so He could die as a payment for the world's sins.
For us trinitarians, if you do not believe Jesus is God the Son, look carefully in the Old Testament to see that Messiah is God's Son. Jesus quizzed the leaders of the day, and they correctly answered Him.
If I was the Messiah, leaving 11 main disciples behind, that would be enough to regret leaving this world.
It suffices that the "blood and water" mixture seen coming from his side, when he was pierced is prrof of his death.
He rose from the dead after 3 days, as witnessed by over 500 at once, and documented by at least one secular historian.
2007-09-28 04:56:15
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answered by zeal4him 5
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Actually your mistake is believing the Koran when it says that Mary is part of the Trinity. Why didn't Allah or Muhammad know that the Trinity is The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit? Everyone knows that except the creators of Islam. It is not Mary, Son and Holy Spirit. No wonder you can't figure it out!!
2007-09-28 04:52:17
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answered by Anonymous
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God allowed Jesus to be crucified. Jesus was on his own while on the cross. That was the only way for our sins to be forgiven. Jesus had to die on the cross by himself. God had to let Jesus die. Of course Jesus felt abandoned by God while he was on the cross. God was not helping him. He had to die while in the living flesh like you and me. Jesus had to feel the pain and endure the suffering for our sins to be forgiven. It is natural for a man to feel forsaken while enduring so much pain. The word forsaken means abandoned. Jesus died as a man in just the same maner as you and I would die.
2007-09-28 10:39:11
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answered by Anonymous
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("Eli Eli Lama Sabuchtani"
Oh God Oh God Why Have Though Forsaken Me?)
This is a reference to a psalm.
2007-09-28 04:54:27
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answered by Vernacular Catholic 3
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You need to have an better understanding.
All good teachers of the Word would start a Psalm and expect the coward to understand what is to follow.
Now Jesus was on the cross he didn't have breath to recite the whole Psalm.
Read Psalm 29 and than you will understand what Jesus was telling the coward.
2007-09-28 04:53:02
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answered by Anonymous
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Some believe that on the cross Jesus was bearing the sin of the world and at that moment that sin separated him from his father. This cry was not a cry of regret, it was a spiritual cry of pain - pain he expereinced for my sin. Also remember the other statements of JEsus on the cross, like It is finished. JEsus's saving work was accomplished on the cross. The cross is the reason God bacame a man in Jesus.
2007-09-28 05:30:43
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answered by Todd C 2
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Throughout His ministry and up to that point Jesus felt the presence of God the Father. In order for Jesus to fulfill His mission He needed to take on the complete weight of the sacrifice so The Father withdrew and allowed Jesus to feel the full impact of His death.
2007-09-28 04:51:34
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answered by Nora Explora 6
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While in the garden of Gethsemane, Jesus prayed to his Father, "My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass away from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will". Meaning of this,
Jesus is not appealing to be spared from death. He is in agony because he fears that the way he will die--as a despicable criminal--will bring reproach upon his Father's name
He knows he is going to be impaled upon a stake as the worst kind of person----a blasphemer against Jehovah! This is what troubles Jesus.
Jesus is stretched out on a stake with his hands above his head. The soldiers pound large nails through his wrists and his feet. He wrenches with pain as the nails pierce through ligaments and flesh. When the stake is swung upright, the pain is excruciating, for the weight of his body tears at the nail wounds, Yet rather than threaten, Jesus prays: "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" [the Roman soldiers]
Because of the Jewish priests, repeat false testimony, passersby begin speaking abusively to Jesus, "if you are a son of God, come down off the torture stake!" Jesus has put his trust in God; let Him now rescue hin if He wants him, for he has said, 'I am God's son."
Yet the one who shared with Jehovah God in creating all things, resolutely suffers all of the abuse!" Still fearing he will bring reproach on his Father's name, he now cries "My God! My God why have you forsaken me? He is afraid that by being hanged as a crimina,l will bring the reproach of his Father's name.
Finally he says: "Father, into your hands I entrust my spirit" Jesus now commits his life-force in confidence, that it will be restored, bows his head and dies { The true God cannot die--Habakkuk 1:12
2007-09-28 06:20:42
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes his father would let him parish like that and Jesus did it willingly for us. To explain the statement " why have thou forsaken me" .... When Christ was crucified he took on the sin of man past present and future... in doing that he became sin itself and because God, our father can not be in the presence of sin, because he is Holy, turned his back to sin [ not Jesus ]. Christ being human like us felt for the first time what it meant to be us as he held all our sins and felt the absense of God and cried out in pain and heartache just as we do. That has always been such a moving moment to me, to see that he went through that for me is awesome. To think that he then spent 3 days in hell [ total absence of God ] also is amazing. Pure love is all it is. Like the bible says There are some who might die for a good man but for some one to chose to die for those who hated him is, love.
2007-09-28 04:57:04
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answered by Connie D 4
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