I propose we move Christmas to a more accurate time of year. Thoughts?

Question

While it is difficult to know when Jesus of Nazareth was supposedly born, it seems obvious from scripture (particularly those mentioning livestock) that he was not born in December. I want to move our celebration of Jesus' birthday to a more accurate time of year. If the church proposed such a change, what would be your reaction? Why hasn't it already done so?

Answer 1

I say let them have their santa day if they want it ; I celebrate the birth of Jesus in my heart everyday just as I do His death and resurrection. Jesus is my sabbath, my rest and I rest in Him everyday. As for His time of birth, I believe He was born around Sept 29th for this is the time of the feast of Tabernacles ,...and the shepherds were still in the fields with their sheep at this time.

Answer 2

Great idea! I would suggest the start of October because there is some evidence to support the suggestion that Jesus was 33 and a half years old when he was put to death. Also, it's my birthday early in October and it would be nice to have it associated with such an outstanding event.

Now, your observation about the livestock ("And there were shepherds living out in the fields near by, keeping watch over thier flocks at night" - Luke 2:8): I used to think this was proof that Jesus could not have been born in December because it would be too cold for the shepherds to be out in the fields at night. But that does not mean it was summer, the dry season. The flocks reserved for temple sacrifice were kept in the fields near Bethlehem throughout the year.

However, we know for an absolute certainty that Jesus was NOT born in December and that the origins of the celebrations on 25 December are pagan. Why, then does the church not confess to the truth of the matter? Why do ministers, pastors and priests continue to uphold a lie? They KNOW Jesus wasn't born on 25 December, but have you ever heard that announced from the pulpit? I wonder what excuse they're all going to give God on the day of judgement?

'Christmas' is the one thing about Christianity that I cannot go along with. Yes, it was a joyous and significant occassion - even the angels rejoiced. But to invent a date just to pacify the pagans who were being forced to "convert" to Christianity? Disgraceful. However, it is Jesus' death that is the significant event. If he had not been obedient unto death and laid down his life as an atoning sacrifice for sinful humanity, there would be no hope for any of us.

Answer 3

To your "shark week" ? (in her Profile statement) Ha ha

We Jesusonians are given by Epochal Revelation that Jesus Christ Incarnated here as our True God-Man at noon, local Bethlehem, Palestine time, of August 21, 7BC. We gather, study, fellowship, pray and worship then, and also we celebrate the old pagan pre-Christian festival of lights on Dec 25 with many other Christians. If you want to celebrate the Incarnation of Jesus Christ every day or hour or miniute or second or picosecond, etc that's fine too.

On 7 BC and our present calebdar: Since there is no year 0, as time went from 1BC to AD1, we must now add 6 years to our calendar to get the correct year from the Incarnation date of Jesus to this planet. Thus today is AD2007 + 6 = AD2013

Maybe in 500 to 3000 more years our calendar will be made right. Definitely not soon.

I also would like to see the pre-Christian pagan names for the seven days of the week be changed. "Sunday" to Sonday, etc. Our "Thursday" came from "Thor, the god of WAR"

"The church" ?? Which one of now over 38,000 different ones? Only a later coming world planetary government, OF all Humans, BY all Humans and FOR all Humans, could change the calendar.

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Answer 4

My family celebrates Christmas every year, Christmas Eve too. Most of them are Godless. I got sick of them. They have a tradition that requires no faith, not even a mention of Him.

So I don't celebrate it. I hate Christmas. And I hate any holiday that has the form of godliness without any faith required.

They can observe it a much as they want to, 365 days a year, I don't care. I stay away from them during that time, and they know that I am a Christian. It makes them question what Christianity is. And I like that.

Answer 5

Even if you changed the day to corrolate with the time of year that jesus was supposedly born...the actual activities that are celebrated on that day (presents, trees, etc.) that are based on pagan and roman holidays, will remain.

Too much of a hassle to change it now, and a lot of people don't celebrate it for religious reasons anymore...even religious people themselves.

Answer 6

I thought the current date was chosen to make use of the popularity of other established holidays and festivals... No accurate date for the birth of Jesus has been established anyhow. It's been suggested that he probably wasn't a real individual but only a composed character based on the tales of previously known "gods" and prophets like the Egyptian sun god, Horus... and that's a rather plausible possibility.

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Answer 7

It was at the more accurate time for a while, but the church moved it to December to combat pagan holidays (as was tradition at the time). It was an old-school method of conversion.

Answer 8

It don't matter to me really. Why hasn't it been done yet? Its prob a bit difficult, now that every country that has it as a holiday is pretty mush used to the date. it will just confuse things, don't you think. The point is, Jesus was born and did what He was meant to do. Date is not much of an issue.

Answer 9

Christmas is a borrowed concept that began with Pagans long before Christ walked the earth. I believe that if Christmas is moved it would only move the Valle of today's beliefs but the holiday would still be practiced in some form because its roots are in, and with nature.

Answer 10

Why is it so hard to believe that Jesus was born on the 25th December, what has religion got to gain by falsely giving this date. Jesus was a real man his life was documented because he was sent to give his people a message, he was a gifted man like no other, the date of his birth on the census when Joseph and Mary went to Bethlehem, Mary could have her baby because she could not have him Jerusalem has Herod heard of a King being born and it threatened his position of power, which led him to have all new born babies put to death., by reading way, way to much into the bible you are asking for trouble, that is the devils doing.