John 8:58 "Before Abraham ever was.....I Am"
Just like the poster above stated......in Him lived all the fullness of the Godhead in bodily form.
Jesus Christ did NOT consider it robbery to be equal to God......because He was God come in the flesh.
2007-09-28 03:15:58
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answered by primoa1970 7
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Read Daniel 9:24-27. It is called the "2300 days" prophecy (or 2300 prophetic years) which started in 457 BC and ended in 1844 AD. That puts the date of anointing of the Messiah as 27 AD and His crucifixion in 31 AD.
It is a prophecy about when the Messiah would appear, what He would do and when He would be killed. It can refer to no other Messiah but Jesus the Christ.
2007-09-28 03:26:23
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answer #2
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answered by Andy Roberts 5
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I totall disagree with your statement/accusation that: "Christians have changed the meaning of Messiah to mean a GOD or a saviour for the whole world."
I'm a Christian, and I certainly didn't change any meanings behind that word. Never heard any one Christian say anything like that.
2007-09-28 03:19:42
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answer #3
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answered by discombobulated girl 4
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And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
God was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory. 1 Tim. 3:16
And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Rev. 1:17-18
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word(JESUS), and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. 1 Jn. 5:7
I and My Father are one. John 10:30
Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Phil. 2:5-8
Jesus is Savior of the whole world. (JN. 3:16) He has many names, but He calls Himself I AM.
Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” John 8:58
Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I AM He(GOD IN FLESH), you will die in your sins.” John 8:24
2007-09-28 04:02:25
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answered by Anonymous
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Read John 1... it explains how in the beginning there was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God... then how the Word became flesh. Jesus was the Word made flesh... start with John 1 and continue your study ~ just my opinion! All the best.
2007-09-28 03:23:04
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answered by AngieMama 3
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"If only you would split open the heavens and come down! The mountains would quake at your presence." Isaiah 64:1
"Immediately coming up out of the water, He saw the heavens opening, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon Him;" Mark 1:10
2007-09-28 03:23:54
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answered by Anonymous
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Col 2:9 " In Him resides the fullness of the Godhead..."
2007-09-28 03:14:54
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answered by Anonymous
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saul and david were not messiahs ask any jew they will say they were not messiahs
you are clearly deluded
and god head sounds so nasty doesnt it?
messiah mean annointed
and go read some messianic propheicies and tell me if jesus is the messiah
2007-09-28 03:16:55
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus never claimed he was God. A lot of things are taken out of context. I'd believe his words over Paul's, as Paul wasn't really there when Jesus was around.
Maybe the Unitarians are on to something.
2007-09-28 03:14:54
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answered by Anonymous
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There are ample proofs to this in the scriptures but besides these you have to ask the question, can humanity once fallen from Gods grace redeem itself? God says no and therefore Christ had to be both divine and human in order to do this redemptive act.
Ignatius of Antioch
"For our God, Jesus Christ, was conceived by Mary in accord with God’s plan: of the seed of David, it is true, but also of the Holy Spirit (Epistle to the Ephesians 18:2).
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Ignatius of Antioch
". . . to the Church beloved and enlightened after the love of Jesus Christ, our God, by the will of him that has willed everything which is (Epistle to the Romans 1 [A.D. 110]).
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Aristides
"[Christians] are they who, above every people of the Earth, have found the truth, for they acknowledge God, the creator and maker of all things, in the only-begotten Son and in the Holy Spirit" (Apology 16 [A.D. 140]).
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Tatian
"We are not playing the fool, you Greeks, nor do we talk nonsense, when we report that God was born in the form of a man" (Address to the Greeks 21 [A.D. 170]).
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Melito
"It is no way necessary in dealing with persons of intelligence to adduce the actions of Christ after his baptism as proof that his soul and his body, his human nature, were like ours, real and not phantasmal. The activities of Christ after his baptism, and especially his miracles, gave indication and assurance to the world of the deity hidden in his flesh. Being God and likewise perfect man, he gave positive indications of his two natures: of his deity, by the miracles during the three years following after his baptism; of his humanity, in the thirty years which came before his baptism, during which, by reason of his condition according to the flesh, he concealed the signs of his deity, although he was the true God existing before the ages" (Fragment in Anastasius of Sinai’s, The Guide 13 [A.D. 177]).
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Irenaeus
"For the Church, although dispersed throughout the whole world even to the ends of the Earth, has received from the apostles and from their disciples the faith in one God, Father Almighty, the creator of heaven and Earth and sea and all that is in them; and in one Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who became flesh for our salvation; and in the Holy Spirit, who announced through the prophets the dispensations and the comings, and the birth from a Virgin, and the passion, and the Resurrection from the dead, and the bodily Ascension into heaven of the beloved Christ Jesus our Lord, and his coming from heaven in the glory of the Father to re-establish all things; and the raising up again of all flesh of all humanity, in order that to Jesus Christ our Lord and God and Savior and King, in accord with the approval of the invisible Father, every knee shall bend of those in heaven and on Earth and under the earth . . " (Against Heresies 1:10:1 [A.D. 180]).
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Irenaeus
"Nevertheless, what cannot be said of anyone else who ever lived, that he is himself in his own right God and Lord . . . may be seen by all who have attained to even a small portion of the truth" (Against Heresies 3:19:1).
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Tertullian
"God alone is without sin. The only man who is without sin is Christ; for Christ is also God" (The Soul 41:3 [A.D. 208]).
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Tertullian
"The origins of both his substances display him as man and as God: from the one, born, and from the other, not born.." (The Flesh of Christ 5:6-7 [A.D. 208]).
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Tertullian
"That there are two Gods and two Lords, however, is a statement which we will never allow to issue from our mouth; not as if the Father and the Son were not God, nor the Spirit God, and each of them God; but formerly two were spoken of as Gods and two as Lords, so that when Christ would come, he might both be acknowledged as God and be called Lord, because he is the Son of him who is both God and Lord" (Against Praxeas 13:6 [A.D. 213]).
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Hippolytus
"Only [God’s] Word is from himself and is therefore also God, becoming the substance of God" (Philoso-phoumena 10:33 [A.D. 222]).
2007-09-28 03:17:50
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answered by Sentinel 7
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