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Should I trust the visions of God that I saw those nights several years ago?

It's just that several responses to an earlier question seemed to deny that this thing could have happened to Moses, Abraham, and all the others in the Bible. They would have at one time or other eaten psychotrophic plants, moulds and fungi.

What should I do? Ignore it and put it down to hallucination?

2007-09-28 01:32:53 · 19 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Lion of Judah - how would you know such a thing if you never tried it? I feel a weak person is someone who has put their faith in something they can never prove and often seems like a fools hope.

2007-09-28 01:38:32 · update #1

Don't laugh. I'm deadly serious!!!! :-)

2007-09-28 01:39:01 · update #2

Cheers Aussie Witch. This was over ten years ago. I took it for around a year. After that I managed to get a degree and Ph.D. So much for it screwing up my mind.

2007-09-28 01:42:45 · update #3

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Hey- I did a lot of LSD in my youth. The whole ego-loss part of the experience makes for an interesting perspectives, but I wouldn't go trusting the visions.
My best friend wasn't really turning into a camel, I wasn't really too tall to fit in a cafe, and every cartoon character in history wasn't really dancing in my wallpaper.

I don't mean to belittle your experiences. I'm sure that it's possible to make some life-changing shifts in your thinking as a result of using hallucinogens.But in the final analysis, hallucinations are hallucinations, and are the product of your own mind, not of some external mystical intervention.
Oh, and LSD can have some very damaging long-term effects, so it's best not to continue taking it, although I know how hard it can be to stop.

Otherwise, you could end up blending fantasy with reality, unable to tell where one ends and the other begins- a bit like victor 7707, above.

2007-09-28 01:50:16 · answer #1 · answered by nealo d 5 · 2 0

The Bible says not to get high on drugs but to get high in the Holy Spirit.

Eph:5:18: And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

People can receive a similar experience, but only better, healthier, and holy, and not sinful, and thus without guilt, condmenation, or sin by getting high in the Spirit.

satan manipulates the soul for these encounters, but God manifests in the spirit. Since we are spirits, have a soul, and live in a body, that means the buzz is all the more perfect as it goes and comes from the most pure source, rather than having to come from the weakest source (material form), and go to the soul, which is not center of your person, but which is the spirit.

2007-09-28 01:51:57 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Occasional use of hallucinogens can show you the possibilities ... the wondrous, true possibilities .... I feel our task is to manifest those possibilities in our ordinary lives.

I know a number of highly intelligent and deeply sensitive individuals for whom the realizations they had with hallucinogens prompted them to stop doing drugs and get serious about their spiritual lives.

I am also familiar with some traditional spiritual practices that foster and support altered states of functioning without ingesting any "medicine" substances.

EDIT: And then there's the Pahnke "Good Friday" experiment, in which a group of seminarians agreed to participate in an experiment taking psilocybin during a religious retreat. To this day, thirty-five years later, 11 out of 12 of those seminarians characterize that experience as one of the most important and meaningful of their entire lives.
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2007-09-28 01:42:14 · answer #3 · answered by bodhidave 5 · 1 0

a great variety of what you declare to have examine or heard is incorrect; or maybe individuals that are top are out of context. God does not desire you to go through; nor does He desire you labouring below condemnation of "sin". The Blood of Jesus has cleansed you. you have the Holy Spirit residing in you. Be formidable, sturdy and of excellent braveness, for He has conquer the worldwide. do now not stay on your errors or supply in to concern which you're doing some thing incorrect - it particularly is a snare of the devil. enable God to steer you. examine your Bible, pray, fellowship with different believers and do not forget feeding your soul with God's word. it is not your sin or loss of it that makes you an outstanding Christian. it is your attractiveness of the sacrifice Christ made on the flow.

2017-01-02 18:54:30 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

My advice is to recognise that when your brain is altered, your perception of reality changes. Sometimes this can deepen your understanding of reality, but that doesn't mean that playing with your brain chemicals is necessarily a good thing. Hallucinogens are very blunt tools, and can easily damage your brain.

There are much safer ways of altering your consciousness without taking chemical bludgeons to your neurons. Meditation takes some practice, but you can learn to safely enter states similar to that induced by drugs using techniques refined by thousands of years of human culture. Everyone dreams - learning to actively remember and engage with their content can also enrich your everyday existence. It's not hard, but it takes some practice. People have been doing it for tens of thousands of years. Read mythology. This is the distillation of the dreaming of humans.

No, don't trust those visions - treat them skeptically. But they are worth following up. Just remember that trying to take chemical shortcuts tends to cause more harm than good.

2007-09-28 02:23:54 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I think 'Ignore it and put it down to hallucination' is too harsh. Such things are a valuable lesson in the way the brain shapes perceived reality, and how tiny influences like a serotonin agonist can completely change your views.

Such things have helped me understand how utterly convincing some hallucinations can be, and how dangerous it is to put too much stock in non-evidence-based information.

CD

2007-09-28 01:49:42 · answer #6 · answered by Super Atheist 7 · 2 1

LSD changes how your mind perceives things, and moves you away from consensus reality.

The early pioneers who took LSD certainly did use it to explore metaphysical questions not least to come closer to the divine.

I can't tell you whether you should keep taking LSD, I have always been far too scared to experiment with it myself (control issues), but I recommend that you might enjoy

"Doors of perception, heaven and hell"

by Aldous Huxley, who was one of the first experimenters, a dedicated intellectual and social commentator.

2007-09-28 01:45:44 · answer #7 · answered by Twilight 6 · 1 0

And where might one obtain such a wonder drug these days ? I thought it was all E's and heroin these days ?

Maybe that's why the Govenment ban these drugs , because they do bring you closer to spiritual enlightenment. Even the Beatles wrote some of their best music while using drugs.

2007-09-28 01:52:01 · answer #8 · answered by londonpeter2003 4 · 1 0

I wouldn't trust your hallucinations they were not from God, the god that was using the hallucinations was trying to mess with you, not help you he only wants you get you further from the true God, not, closer! drugs will mess with your mind, they alter your mind, that gives satan an opportunity to mess with it further, what should you do?Keep away from drugs, they will not help you get close to God, only further away with satan's influence to confuse you further the visions of god that you saw were not real, it was satan impersonating and working to get your devotion away from the true God(2Corinthians4:4) and he does it without drugs, but, drugs help him to confuse you, and if you take them you are helping him not yourself, for he has interest only in harming you, not helping you, even if it seems good to start with, for he masquerades as an angel of light(2Corinthians11:14)And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

2007-09-28 02:27:50 · answer #9 · answered by I speak Truth 6 · 0 0

Taking drugs is not getting close to God, its more like getting close to the devil, Christ wants you in your right mind, drugs is just another way of escaping our problems instead of facing them, Becoming a Christian and serving God will help you make it thru the problems of everyday life. Drugs in the end lead to prison and death. And that is exactly what the old serpant wants for you, prison and death, I was a correctional worker for almost 20 years, so I know what I am talking about. Those were not visions you saw, they were as you say hallucinations, and that is not of God. How can God speak to you when you are not in your own mind, God does send visions and dreams to people, I have had them, I have been saved for a long time. Have you ever been saved. John 3:3, Jesus says except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of Heaven, have you repented of all your sins and been born again. Jesus died for our sins, on a cross at calvery. A terrible bloody death, remember John 3:16, he did for us, so we could have eternal life with him in Heaven someday, let Jesus wash away your sins, be saved today, he will take away your desire to do drugs, he will help you, you can't do it by yourself, come to Jesus as you are, he will help you overcome, just say this simple sinners prayer believing, Dear Jesus, I know and confess that I am sinner in need of salvation. I believe you died on a cross at calvery and arose from the grave to wash away my sins, I ask you right now to come into my heart and save me, I pray this Prayer believing in the name of Jesus Amen. If you prayed this prayer with a sincere heart you are now a child of God, rejoice that your name is written in the Lambs book of Life. If you have any questions just send me an email, God Bless YOU!!

2007-09-28 01:46:21 · answer #10 · answered by victor 7707 7 · 0 3

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