Should we use fast food chains like Subway, Burger King etc to buy veggie products and hope that the more people buying flesh-free products will encourage them to cut down ordering meat-based products and indirectly saving animals lives on a bigger scale, OR should we have nothing to do with them ?
2007-09-27 09:16:40 · 40 answers · asked by Anonymous in Food & Drink ➔ Vegetarian & Vegan
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2007-09-27 12:09:17 · update #1
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Your bit about humans being omnivores, yes, an omnivore can eat anything, that means they DON'T HAVE TO eat meat to survive ! I think all that blood, fecal matter, bacteria etc. is getting to you now.
2007-09-27 12:16:10 · update #2
I personally don't think V&V should have anything to do with MCDs etc.
Lets face it, they will not direct the profit they make from you to widen thier veggie choice. They wil use it to expand thier core business of beef products.
MCDs etc has only recently jumped on the bandwagon.
We would be better supporting independent food places that have supported veggies for many years. Lets show them some loyalty.
Would you trust the cross contamination risks to MCDs. Just spend 5 minutes standing in there watching the staff. Its almost guranteed the meat gets cross contaminated to the veggie offering.
Also, try asking MCDs which of thier products are veggie, they will not tell you, they will just point you to thier ingredients list. They cannot even be bothered to identify and stick to the veggie label.
Why don't they have any products approved by vegetarian society like other major food producers ?? It only cots £265, even we've got in in our small place.......The reason is they would not get approval because thier control systems would not prevent cross-contamination.
2007-09-27 20:25:13 · answer #1 · answered by Michael H 7 · 3⤊ 3⤋
I think there are two types of places - places like McDonald's and burger king which i don't set foot in, and smaller places that haven't taken over the world yet such as Pret a' Manger, local pubs and restaurants that serve veggie/vegan food.
As a vegan, i would happily buy a vegan sandwich from Pret a Manger for lunch, and i can see at my local branch that demand is making a difference and the "daily specials" are more often than not veggie or vegan. (They also have a "suggest a sandwich" leaflet, so veggies - start suggesting!)
As someone said earlier - sainsbury sells meat, but they are one of the best supermarkets for vegans because they label.
If no vegans shopped there, there wouldn't be any reason to label, and the life of people wanting to go veggie, but not knowing what to do, would be a lot harder.
At the end of the day i think if you don't shop there you don't really have any power to change things... but if you do - you induce change....
It's like saying "i don't want to live in a country where meat is legal" - so all veggies move and start a new country.....
There is no one left to keep on changing things in the old country - and things never change....
I'm a believer in positive influence... you need a larger percentage of people than 1%-7% to make a major difference with negative influence.
I.E - McDonald's won't change their whole menu for 5% not eating there, but they will (and have) made at least 5% of the menu veggie to accomodate veggies, healthier eaters etc...
2007-09-29 05:13:42 · answer #2 · answered by Elizabeth 2 · 3⤊ 0⤋
That's a really interesting question! I'm not too sure what to think. I would never go into a KFC, that's for sure, they are too evil in the way they treat the animals. I also avoid Mc Donalds, Burger King and Quick. They are symbolic in a way. But on the other hand, I do like to encourage Subway for example, by buying their vegan stuff. It's hard to say what's best. I sometimes think if a lot of people go for the veggie stuff, they will offer more of it, and less meat.
Go vegan!
2007-09-27 14:37:27 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
At subway they have a veggie max (like boca burger) but that may have egg, not sure if its vegan. BK has a boca burger. The more we ask and show interest, the more they will supply our demand. Although out of all the fast food, I try to stick with subway. I really dont want the other fast food giants to get any of my money. I think we would be som much better off if McDonalds and BK and those guys just magically vanished.
2007-09-27 09:24:07 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
It would be nice to see more options in fast food or other restaurants that are dominated by meat. So by purchasing the vegetarian meals maybe they will come out with more options, but that doesn't mean that they will offer less meat.
Like someone said in their answer, they try not to push being a vegetarian on others. I have noticed that organic and vegetarian products at my local grocery store are becoming increasingly popular, due to high demand of these products!
They are also becoming cheaper too which is a bonus.
2007-09-27 10:40:27 · answer #5 · answered by divinity2408 4 · 4⤊ 0⤋
I wouldn't eat anywhere like that as I don't trust them to cook it properly vegetarian. I wouldn't be surprised if they cooked a veggie burger in the same oil as the regular burgers.
Also my boyfriend was getting a Subway once and the guy making it picked up some meat and then picked up a bit of cheese, separated it then put some of the cheese back. Therefore that cheese has meat on it. Yuk!
2007-09-27 09:50:40 · answer #6 · answered by ? 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
While the public opinion and education of big chains has led to some improvement in processing their "food", Big Chain stores can only retail the way they do by processing the way they do for meat eaters. Fast Food Nation is an eye full, read the book, but if you watch the movie there are some great links to sites that will clear the misperception that we can support these stores conscience free. We can't, for either the animals or the workers involved.
2007-09-27 09:23:09 · answer #7 · answered by hez b 3 · 3⤊ 0⤋
I wont eat stuff from these kind of outlets as I can't be sure that they keep the meat products separate from the veggies. Are the meat burgers still cooked along side the veg burgers? Do they still use the same oil, surfaces, fridges etc? Recently I had veg burger & chips in north east of Scotland - cooked in lard! Will now check & only buy fast food from places I am 100% sure of!
2007-09-27 09:29:54 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
I don't feel it's our role to try and force vegetarianism on others. I think it's a positive change, but the most positive way to convince people that vegetarianism isn't weird or neurotic is to go out with friends, eat at places everyone else does, and enjoy food.
If fast food chains are making an effort to cater to other religions and lifestyle choices, I think it's important to encourage such choice.
Edit: To Leo M, fast food places encourage you to ask for your food to be cooked separately if you are worried about cross contamination.
I'm not sure why you're so angry about people who don't eat meat, but remember - there's nothing positive about insulting others' culture and religion. Try to be a little more open minded when someone's not the same as you are.
2007-09-27 09:27:09 · answer #9 · answered by drusillaslittleboot 6 · 4⤊ 0⤋
I don't visit burger king, but i do visit subway and mcdonalds and pizza hut etc. I'm not sure that all veggies using these places and ordering non-animal meals would have an impact on saving animals because it wouldn't stop the people who eat animals from ordering. They would just be gaining more business. So if your against using these places, I wouldn't start using them. You'll be a lot healthier if you don't!!
2007-09-27 09:23:12 · answer #10 · answered by Flit 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋