I have a nagant 91/30 rifle, I bought some 27grn. Ammo and (I love this stuff it makes a mess of your target) I did the rust test with a shell and a shovel and the next day it was rusty in the same spot I fired the shell (bullet and powder were removed) I want to know if I can change the brass/powder to make it non-corrosive (shells in question are steel I think they are green)
Thanks, JBD
2007-09-25 19:50:51 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Outdoor Recreation ➔ Hunting
first off, it's not so much the powder, it's the mercury etc in the old style primers that is corrosive. Secondly, if it's steel cased, forget reloadign it, you'd just ruin your dies. The best thng to do, especially in a bolt action gun, is to shoot it as much as you want for target practice etc. make sure you clean it thoroughly afterwords, believe it or not the simplest and best means of cleaning the rifle after shooting corrosive ammo, is good old hot water and dishsoap. Clean thoroughly with that, then dry with compressed air etc and then give it a complete workover with breakfree or the cleaning/ lubricant of your choice. That's it. Now, a semi auto is 100% harder to clean thoroughly, so I avoid corrosive ammo in them. Any ammo before 1980 can be corrosive, and any of it from the 70's or before is for sure corrosive.
2007-09-26 07:25:32 · answer #1 · answered by randy 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
In some old ammo the primer would release an acid as part of the combustion chemistry. It is relatively mild and if the weapon is cleaned as soon as you are finished shooting it should not be a problem. Use soap and hot water. But when I say cleaned, I do mean cleaned. Every piece, part, groove and so forth. If it is not cleaned properly there will be corrosion develop in a matter of a day or two. Your best bet is to simply not use the stuff. I used to buy it at a cut rate. Then pull the bullets, dump the powder, de-cap it and reload it. I found the brass was pretty good stuff and half the time I could buy the ammo surplus for less than brass cost.
2016-04-06 01:33:39 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
If you clean with hot or soapy water and then solvent as usual, corrosive ammo wil give you no preblems. You just have to clean every time you shoot.
If you really want to avoid the corrosive issues, you need a non-corrosive primer. The problem is that there is no simple way to remove the berdan primer from your steel casings and then add a new berdan primer. Just use boxer primed brass cases with the correct size boxer primers and you can reuse the rest of the components. Any new, quality boxer primers will be non-corrosive.
These corrosive primers are not mercury based. Mercury primers are long extinct. The corrosive primers we see from the surplus ammo have potassium perchlorate in them. This is an oxidizer and when reacted, it produces potassium chloride, a salt. This salt attracts moisture, the moisture is what rusts the bore.
2007-09-29 16:06:16 · answer #3 · answered by Matt M 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Do not fear corrosive ammo!
I have been using corrosive ammo since my dad got an old Mauser from the Sears catalog like 35 years ago. I also own quite a few Mosins and shoot the old Soviet ammo regularly with no rust problems.
I understand that you want to take care of your gun, but remember it was made in a time when all ammo had corrosive properties and it was used with this ammo a little bit in a thing called WWII. The term "corrosive" scares people more than it should and a lot of gun people spread all kinds of lies and fear about the so-called corrosive ammo.
All you need is one easy step added to your regular cleaning routine and one bottle of solution added to your kit. That's it!
After shooting, wet a patch with an ammonia/water solution or just Windex. Swab the bore and wipe the muzzle and bolt face. Then run a dry patch. Then clean and oil like you normally do anyway. THAT IS ALL. Been doing it for thousands of rounds, dozens of rifles and many years and no problems ever.
Please, read the articles......
2007-09-26 05:06:59 · answer #4 · answered by DJ 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Primer is what is corrosive; don't make much ado about nothing and don't work yourself to death. When you are through shooting for the day just spray some windex on a patch and put a blast down the barrel and run the patch. Spray your bolt face and wipe it down with windex, too. The ammonia in windex neutralizes the corrosive salt. You can mix up your own ammonia/water solution but I find using the spray windex is simpler and easier. Sort of like the pull tab on beer cans is simpler and easier.
2007-09-26 03:37:19 · answer #5 · answered by acmeraven 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
What is corrosive is the primer [mercury compound], and the steel casing. Commercial primers produced here is America is non-corrosive.
2007-09-25 23:54:39 · answer #6 · answered by WC 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
You cant reload steel cases. If the ammo is corrosive you can't change that either.
2007-09-25 19:59:48 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋