If people believe in evolution, why don't they believe God was the cause of evolution?

Question

Why is God completely ruled out? I've often wondered about those that believe in evolution... Where did the fish, ape, or what it is they feel we evolved from, come from? Do they really think it was from an exposion? You can't find the materials on earth that it took to make a human.

Answer 1

Any point in the world where only probabilities and possibilities may be described and the limits of scientifically reproducible discovery are exceeded, a point of divine invention becomes a possibility.

I believe divine eternal souls and spirit may play some role in determining how probabilities and possibilities play themselves out. For example, divine eternal soul spirit may play some role in determining the combinations of individuals that will find each other and produce mating pairs. Divine eternal soul spirit may play some role in determining the combinations of sperm and egg cells that will find each other and ultimately lead to conception of a new seed. I believe a fractal infernal temporal seed body would benefit from such help in terms of evolutionary advantage and be better able to create and survive within the body-consuming biosphere. I believe divine eternal soul spirit would benefit by being better able, through the limited yet ever higher consciousness of a fractal infernal temporal seed body, to enjoy entertainment derived from the mystery and discovery of existence.

A question of perhaps even greater difficulty for science may be the origin of single-cell organisms. The theory of evolution offers little help in explaining how the nuclei, various organelles, chromosomes, ribosomes, and cell membranes that combine to complete, make up a whole and bring to perfection a functioning single-cell organism may have come into existence from organic molecular solids, liquids and gases of the primordial crusted magma globe. These components would seemingly have to come into existence simultaneously and in the correct order since all are necessary for the organism to function, absorb matter and energy, process, excrete, grow and reproduce. Odds against such a random occurrence are astronomical and make the possibility of divine intervention an attractive alternative explanation.

Even if science does discover evidence of the origins of single cell organisms that supports the theories of cooperative evolution, panspermia and or chaos, there is always the origin of the universe to ponder. Was it design, was it luck, was it neither, or was it a combination of both that caused our universe to come into existence?

I may only speculate as what to the actual answer to the above question might be. In pursuit of happiness, I can choose to believe in a myth and fantasy that in my mind produces the most powerful emotional responses of joy, faith and love imaginable. I choose to think, believe, and expect our spirit creates our fractal infernal temporal universe for the entertainment of our divine eternal souls.

Answer 2

First of all a lot of religious people do believe in evolution. It is accepted fact by the Catholic church and the Anglican church as just two examples.

Secondly you need to educate yourself, you have several fundemental mistakes in your question.

The big bang was the first recordable event in our universe. It has nothing to do with evolution.

Biogenesis is the formation of life from non-life and this took place on Earth about 3.5 billion years ago, about 12 billion years after the big bang.

There is every indication that all the materials needed for biogenesis were here on Earth at the time it took place. It has not been repeated in a lab, but considering it had the entire Earth's surface and about 500 million years to occur the fact that no scientist has produced self replicating molecules in a couple of pints of liquid in the few weeks tests have actually run, is not that surprising.

If you want to claim that god pushed these chemicals together in just the right way that mankind would be the result, then go ahead. No one can prove you wrong. But think on this: At some point some scientist is going to perform a experimental simulation and is going to produce 'life' in the form of a molecule that will self replicate. Where will your god be then?

Finally it is not a question of believing in evolution. Evolution is an established fact. The theory of evolution provides a best explaination of why those facts happened. For some reason best known to themselves some people chose to ignore the facts in front of them and so disbelieve in evolution. Frankly this is on a par with believing that the Earth is flat.

Answer 3

to trace: dogs don't have thumbs because there is no selection pressure on them to gain them. Natural selection acts on variations that occur through random mutations or genetic variation. It's about competition and survival.

If some dogs gained thumbs from a random mutation, and they were more likely to survive and have puppies because of it, then they would evolve thumbs. (There is also no survival value in catching a cat. A cat would tear a dog to shreds.) But you need to have enough variation to gain something, or a mutation first, for natural selection to act on. That's why evolution takes so long.

There are "still" apes because apes evolved from the same ancestor that we did. They are not necessarily "less evolved", they just evolved in a different direction than we did. Modern apes are not our ancestors, they are like our cousins. They exist because they are able to survive well in the environment that produced them, just as we are.

Now, to the question, there is no reason why a person cannot believe in God and in evolution, but belief or non-belief in God is beyond the scope of science.

Answer 4

You use the word "believe" as though it were a religion. Perhaps this is where your difficulty lies in understanding how atheists can "believe" in evolution and not a deity.

I was an atheist long before I began studying evolution. It would be silly of me to take a deity that I don't believe in and make him/her/it the cause of evolution.

Btw, the "Big Bang" and the Theory of Evolution are two entirely different things. The Big Bang is cosmology, whereas the Theory of Evolution is biology.

Jerome F, might I suggest you educate yourself before ROFLing @ anyone?

Answer 5

A few reasons.
1. Evolution starts with some extremely basic organisms. It took the earth 3.5 billion years before the first single celled life began. After that, evolution was easy.
2. your god would have to be a very complex organism, which would only develop after millions (if not billions) of years of evolution.

I could ask you how your god came into being, and you couldn't answer it any more than I could answer what was before the 'big bang'. But, just because there are unknowns in the universe- doesn't give any evidence that a supernatural being created it.

Answer 6

I believe that God was the cause of all of it. The "Big Bang" and evolution are evidence of God creating the world and life. We're just looking at it from an entirely different time frame than God does.

Answer 7

Evolution has very little to do with a persons belief in god(s).

I am an Atheist, I have always been an Atheist, and The Theory of Evolution has nothing to do with it.

Answer 8

Evoulution doesn't claim that a single living cell just popped into existance. It happens in easy stages. Maybe just 2 molecules came together by chance, at first, and they worked better than the loose ones, so they stayed that way. Then, maybe a million years later, a third one bumped into them, and that worked better, so it stayed. That's natural selection. It may be chance that brings them together, but once they were together, it's not chance anymore. So the key protiens were formed, bit by bit. When one combination produced life, it was only a little step- but it worked better, so it kept on, and made copies of its self. Then came mutations. You may say that almost all mutations are bad. But those bad ones die. If one in a thousand mutations make something better, than that's what survives. It just keeps going, getting better, because the worse ones either die or are less competitive.

Answer 9

Maybe some of us do.

I actually find it interesting that most Christians refuse to accept that I believe in both. I had a debate with a Christophile a while back who insisted that I was an Atheist because, as an Anthropologist I believe in evolution.

I always wondered; since he was picking and choosing which of my beliefs he would accept as my real belief why he picked evolution rather than G-d. I mean choosing to accept that I believe in G-d and that I don't really believe in evolution would have made for less of a confrontation ... but maybe that's what he was really after ... a confrontation.

Answer 10

Perhaps it come's down to what we see in/as God. If we see evolution in God then we can believe 'God was the cause of evolution.' If we see no evolution in God then we believe God is not the cause of evolution as surely he can only create like Himself?

Answer 11

An omnipotent Creator doesn't require evolution, and evolution works just fine without an omnipotent Creator.