Is this a creationist's argument (summarized)?

Question

1. Pure chance could not have accounted for life's complexity
(disregarding natural selection of course, and that complex features evolved slowly, one small change at a time)

2. There are no transitional fossils
(a lie)

3. Microevolution can occur, but there is no evidence of macroevolution.
(not true)

4. Evolution is only a theory.
(the most accurate statement, though it is said without knowing what a theory actually is)

5. Believing in evolution means you agree with Social Darwinism
(acknowledging natural mechanisms does not make you inhumane)

6. Science is only right when it agrees with the Bible
(If it is not said, it is at least implied)

7. Various facts - and lies - about Darwin

8. Wishful thinking
(I didn't evolve from a monkey)

9. Flaws in dating methods
(Though after cross-checking with different dating methods, they can pinpoint a precise time)

10. We have stopped evolving
(We are always subject to evolutionary mechanisms, like all of life)

Notice that 99% of the creationist argument is in trying to debunk evolution spread lies. What are some that I've missed?

*and spread lies

Answer 1

lol that seems to be it in a nutshull

notice you either don't get their answers on this one, or you get defensive ones....

interesting, huh?

Blessed be && Namaste.

Answer 2

It's something like this- I don't understand it because it seems like the world is really confusing to me, therefore God exists

The first problem is that even if that proved the existence of a God, which it doesn't, it wouldn't prove their God and it wouldn't even come close to proving the validity of the bible or any Christian doctrine.

As for evolution, well, the creationists that say it has no evidence are just showing that they have no idea what a theory is. Scientists look at all the facts and then come up with the best theory to explain the facts, not the other way around. The theory of evolution wouldn't exist if it didn't have evidence and it would have been thrown out long ago if it couldn't stand up to rigorous scientific examination. I've heard creationists say that evolution is a lie designed by Satan to destroy Christianity (no kidding)

Answer 3

Great points!!!!

My favorites are:

"If humans evolved from monkeys, then why do we still have monkeys?"

"If evolution happens, then why don't we ever see new species?"

The fact that anyone, given the overwhelming evidence for evolution would ask such questions is a reflection of the poor quality of education in the United States.

Fun fact of the day:
Tennessee and Arkansas were the last two states to allow the teaching of evolution in classrooms.

The "Creation science" craze of the last 20 years, by definition is not science at all. Creationists assert that their view is absolute and infallible. However, creationism is not a hypothesis that can be tested, nor is it amenable to falsification. Because, testing is the basis of all science, creationism by definition cannot be science.

Answer 4

I'm not a creationist nor a evolutionist

I believe in many forms of evolution, including or evolution from more primitive beings. I don't however believe that we were created by chance, or that we are related from monkeys. I don't hate Darwin or believe that he is a liar. I believe that we are still evolving. I don't believe that the Bible is literal, I believe it to be very metaphorical and should not be taken as 100% fact. Evolution is only a theory, we cannot 100% prove it to be true, we were not there.

I guess I'm more of a evolutionist who believes that there was a creator.

yes this is the main argument, and honestly they make themselves look silly. but then again I think some evolutionists' arguments are silly too.

I believe in what I believe in not becasue of misunderstanding of the evolution theory, but out of my relationship with God. I don't need any science or experiments to tell me that He is real. :)

Answer 5

Perfectly said! I love 10, 9, and 6. They defiantly spread ignorance, and of course it's the uneducated that believe like this.

Answer 6

11. Discrediting evolution (somehow) gives weight to Creationsim.

12. Creationism is (supposedly) an equal and worthy theory; both should be taught to adolescents so they can choose (just like they do in complex physics, or in university-level historiographical debates, aparently. I must have been sick that day).

Answer 7

Pretty much.

http://pooflingers.blogspot.com/2005/11/crunch-squared-archives.html

Answer 8

I think you should just give up until there is some actual "proof" that we evolved from apes. If you didn't realize it, there is no proof of this, hence it is a theory, not a fact.

And unfortunately, there are flaws in carbon dating, they cannot always pinpoint a precise time as you said, but they can give pretty good estimates, so your statement on carbon dating is incorrect.

You are right about one thing though, we are still evolving, hence every generation getting taller and supposedly smarter than the ones before, but the jury's still out on the smarter category.

Answer 9

Yes, but it's said much louder than that...many more times, many more exclamation points...

Answer 10

There are a lot more, all easily debunked.

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html