Jesus created/founded the Catholic church? When did this happen?

Question

Just read a few postings from several users stating jesus started the catholic church. Um..... I'm actually dumbfounded by this one.

Answer 1

Uh, no. Jesus taught peace, love, forgiveness and the word of God. Period. The Catholic church was founded after he died. Any way you slice it, Catholic dogma just ain't in the bible, nor are most of the tenets of modern secular organized regligion.

Answer 2

You asked for it:

Actually there were about 30 Popes before Constitine, who Athiests like to claim started Christianiaty.

I could give you tons more information, but I doubt that many would actually read them, it is so much easier to sleep late on Sunday mornings after a night of parties and be a "Free Thinker"


Papal Line of Succession
1. St. Peter ~33 - 67
2. St. Linus 67 - 76
3. St. Anacletus I 76 - 88
4. St. Clement I 88 - 97
5. St. Evaristus 97 - 105
6. St. Alexander I 105 - 115
7. St. Sixtus I 115 - 125
8. St. Telesphorus 125 - 136
9. St. Hyginus 136 - 140
10. St. Pius I 140 - 155
11. St. Anicetus 155 - 166
12. St. Soter 166 - 175
13. St. Eleuterius 175 - 189
14. St. Victor I 189 - 199
15. St. Zephyrinus 199 - 217
16. St. Callistus I 217 - 222
17. St. Urban I 222 - 230
18. St. Pontian 230 - 235
19. St. Anterus 235 - 236
20. St. Fabian 236 - 250
21. St. Cornelius 251 - 253
22. St. Lucius I 253 - 254
23. St. Stephen I 254 - 257
24. St. Sixtus II 257 - 258
25. St. Dionysius 259 - 268
26. St Felix I 269 - 274
27. St. Eutychian 275 - 283
28. St. Caius 283 - 296
29. St. Marcellinus 296 - 304
30. St. Marcellus I 304 - 309
31. St. Eusebius 309 - 311
32. St. Melchiades 311 - 314
33. St. Sylvester I 314 - 335
34. St. Marcus 336
35. St. Julius I 337 - 352
36. Liberius 352 - 366
37. St. Damasus I 366 - 384
38. St. Siricius 384 - 399
39. St. Anastasius I 399 - 401
40. St. Innocent I 401 - 417
41. St. Zosiumus 471 -418
42. St. Boniface I 418 - 422
43. St. Celestine I 422 - 432
44. St. Sixtus III 432 - 440
45. St. Leo I 440 - 461
46. St. Hilarius 461 - 468
47. St. Simplicius 468 - 483
48. St. Felix II 483 - 492
49. St. Gelasius I 492 - 496
50. Anastasius II 496 - 498
51. St. Symmachus 498 - 514
52. St. Hormisdas 514 - 523
53. St. John I 523 - 526
54. St. Felix III 526 - 530
55. Boniface II 530 - 532
56. John II 533 - 535
57. St. Agapitus I 535 - 536
58. St. Silverius 536 - 537
59. Vigilius 537 - 555
60. Pelagius I 556 - 561
61. John III 561 - 574
62. Benedict I 575- 579
63. Pelagius II 579 - 590
64. St. Gergory I 590 - 604
65. Sabinianus 604 - 606
66. Boniface III 607
67. St. Boniface IV 608 - 615
68. St. Deusdedit 615 - 618
69. Boniface V 619 - 625
70.
Honorius I 625 - 638
71. Severinus 638 - 640
72. John IV 640 - 642
73. Theodore I 642 - 655
74. St. Martin I 649 - 655
75. St. Eugene I 655 - 657
76. St. Vitalian 657 - 672
77. Adeodatus 672 - 676
78. Donus 676 - 678
79. St. Agatho 678 - 681
80. St. Leo II 682 - 683
81. St. Benedict II 684 - 685
82. John V 685 - 686
83. Conon 686 - 687
84. St. Sergius I 687 - 701
85. John VI 701 - 705
86. John VII 705 - 707
87. Sisinnius 708
88. Constantine 708 - 715
89. St. Gregory II 715 - 731
90. St. Gregory III 731 - 741
91. St. Zacharias 741 - 752
92. St. Stephen II 752 - 757
93. St. Paul I 757 - 767
94. Stephen III 768 -772
95. Adrian I 772 - 795
96. St. Leo III 795 - 816
97. Stephen IV 816 - 817
98. St. Paschal I 817 - 824
99. Eugene II 824 -827
100. Valentine 827
101. Gregory IV 827 - 844
102. Sergius II 844 - 847
103. St. Leo IV 847 - 855
104. Benedict III 855 - 858
105. St. Nicholas I 858 - 867
106. Adrian II 867 - 872
107. John VIII 872 - 882
108. Marinus I 882 - 884
109. St. Adrian III 884 - 885
110. Stephen V 885 - 891
111. Formosus 891 - 896
112. Boniface VI 896
113. Stephen VI 896 - 897
114. Romanus 897
115. Theodore II 897
116. John IX 898 - 900
117. Benedict IV 900 - 903
118. Leo V 903
119. Sergius III 904 - 911
120. Anastasius III 911 - 913
121. Lando 913 - 914
122. John X 914 - 928
123. Leo VI 928
124. Stephen VII 928 - 931
125. John XI 931 - 936
126. Leo VII 936 - 939
127. Stephen VIII 939 - 942
128. Marinus II 942 - 946
129. Agaptus II 946 - 955
130. John XII 955 - 964
131. Leo VIII 964 - 965
132. Benedict V 965
133. John XIII 965 - 972
134. Benedict VI 973 - 974
135. Benedict VII 974 - 983
136. John XIV 983 - 984
137. John XV 985 - 996
138. Gregory V 996 - 999
139. Sylvester II 999 - 1003
140. John XVII 1003
141. John XVIII 1003 - 1009
142. Sergius IV 1009 - 1012
143. Benedict VIII 1012 - 1024
144. John XIX 1024 - 1032
145. Benedict IX 1032 - 1045
146. Sylvester III 1045
147. Benedict IX 1045 (2nd term)
148. Gregory VI 1045 - 1046
149. Clement II 1046 - 1047
150. Benedict IX 1047 - 1048 (3rd term)
151. Damasus II 1048
152. St. Leo IX 1049 - 1054
153. Victor II 1055 - 1057
154. Stephen IX 1057 - 1058
155.
Nicholas II 1059 -1061
156. Alexander II 1061 - 1073
157. St. Gregory VII 1073 - 1085
158. Bl. Victor III 1087
159. Bl. Urban II 1088 - 1099
160. Paschal II 1099 - 1118
161. Gelasius II 1118 - 1119
162. Callistus II 1119 - 1124
163. Honorius II 1124 - 1130
164. Innocent II 1130 - 1143
165. Celestine II 1143 - 1144
166. Lucius 1144 - 1145
167. Bl. Eugene III 1145 - 1153
168. Anastasius IV 1153 - 1154
169. Adrian IV 1154 - 1159
170. Alexander III 1159 - 1181
171. Lucius III 1181 - 1185
172. Urban III 1185 - 1187
173. Gregory VIII 1187
174. Clement III 1187 - 1191
175. Celestine III 1191 - 1198
176. Innocent III 1198 - 1216
177. Honorius III 1216 - 1227
178. Gregory IX 1227 - 1241
179. Celestine IV 1241
180. Innocent IV 1243 - 1254
181. Alexander IV 1254 - 1261
182. Urban IV 1261 - 1264
183. Clement IV 1265 - 1268
184. Bl. Gregory X 1271 - 1276
185. Bl. Innocent V 1276
186. Adrian V 1276
187. John XXI 1276 - 1277
188. Nicholas III 1277 - 1280
189. Martin IV 1281 - 1285
190. Honorius IV 1285 - 1287
191. Nicholas IV 1288 - 1291
192. St. Celestine V 1294
193. Boniface VIII 1294 - 1303
194. Benedict XI 1303 - 1304
195. Celement V 1305 - 1314
196. John XXII 1316 - 1334
197. Benedict XII 1334 - 1342
198. Clement VI 1342 - 1352
199. Innocent VI 1352 - 1362
200. Bl. Urban V 1362 - 1370
201. Gregory XI 1370 - 1378
202. Urban VI 1378 - 1389
203. Boniface IX 1389 - 1404
204. Innocent VII 1404 - 1406
205. Gregory XII
(resigned during the Western Schism) 1406 - 1415
206. Martin V 1417 - 1431
207. Eugene IV 1431 - 1447
208. Nicholas V 1447 - 1455
209. Callistus III 1455 - 1458
210. Pius II 1458 - 1464
211. Paul II 1464 - 1471
212. Sixtus IV 1471 - 1484
213. Innocent VIII 1484 - 1492
214. Alexander VI 1492 - 1503
215. Pius III 1503
216. Julius II 1503 - 1513
217. Leo X 1513 - 1521
218. Adrian VI 1522 - 1523
219. Clement VII 1523 - 1534
220. Paul III 1534 - 1549
221. Julius III 1550 - 1555
222. Marcellus II 1555
223. Paul IV 1555 - 1559
224. Pius IV 1559 - 1565
225. St. Pius V 1566 - 1572
226. Gregory XIII 1572 - 1585
227. Sixtus V 1585 - 1590
228. Urban VII 1590
229. Gregory XIV 1590 - 1591
230. Innocent IX 1591
231. Clement VIII 1592 - 1605
232. Leo XI 1605
233. Paul V 1605 - 1621
234. Gregory XV 1621 - 1623
235. Urban VIII 1623 - 1644
236. Innocent X 1644 - 1655
237. Alexander VII 1655 - 1667
238. Clement IX 1667 - 1669
239. Clement X 1670 - 1676
240. Bl. Innocent XI 1676 - 1689
241. Alexander VIII 1689 - 1691
242. Innocent XII 1691 - 1700
243. Clement XI 1700 - 1721
244. Innocent XIII 1721 - 1724
245. Benedict XIII 1724 - 1730
246. Clement XII 1730 - 1740
247. Benedict XIV 1740 - 1758
248. Clement XIII 1758 - 1769
249. Clement XIV 1769 - 1774
250. Pius VI 1775 - 1799
251. Pius VII 1800 - 1823
252. Leo XII 1823 - 1829
253. Pius VIII 1829 - 1830
254. Gregory XVI 1831 - 1846
255. Piux IX 1846 - 1878
256. Leo XIII 1878 - 1903
257. St. Pius X 1903 - 1914
258. Benedict XV 1914 - 1922
259. Pius XI 1922 - 1939
260. Pius XII 1939 - 1958
261. John XXIII 1958 - 1963
262. Paul VI 1963 - 1978
263. John Paul I 1978
264. John Paul II 1978 - 2005
265. Benedict XVI 2005 - Present

Answer 3

Yes Jesus founded the "first" church, but not the Catholic Church.

The “first church” is the church that is recorded in the New Testament, especially in the Book of Acts and the Epistles of Paul. The New Testament church is the “original church” and the “one true church.” We can know this because it is described, in great detail, in Scripture. The church, as recorded in the New Testament, is God’s pattern and foundation for His church. On this basis, let’s examine the Roman Catholic claim that it is the “first church.” Nowhere in the New Testament will you find the “one true church” doing any of the following: praying to Mary, praying to the saints, venerating Mary, submitting to a pope, having a select priesthood, baptizing an infant, observing the ordinances of baptism and the Lord’s Supper as sacraments, or passing on apostolic authority to successors of the apostles. All of these are core elements of the Roman Catholic faith. If most of the core elements of the Roman Catholic Church were not practiced by the New Testament Church (the first church and one true church), how then can the Roman Catholic Church be the first church? A study of the New Testament will clearly reveal that the Roman Catholic Church is not the same church as the church that is described in the New Testament.

Answer 4

Why are you dumbfounded?

He told Peter to feed his sheep. He told Peter, you are the rock and on this rock I build MY church. He gave Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Peter was the first Pope. That means Jesus Christ started the Catholic Church.

Pope is not in the Bible...we know that...but Peter acted in authority as head of the Church and he handed that authority down through the Apostolic Succession. The office of Pope was a term used later but meaning the same authority that Peter had.

Answer 5

The founding of the Church was when Jesus conferred authority on the disciple Simon, whom Jesus rechristened as Peter. As others have shown, there is abundant evidence throughout the gospels that Peter was the leader of the disciples and the ordained leader of the original Church.

Convergent historical sources show that Peter traveled to Rome, the heart of the Roman empire, to direct the Church from the the center of the civilized world.

Peter refers to Rome in the greeting at the end of I Peter: “The Church here in Babylon, united with you by God’s election, sends you her greeting, and so does my son, Mark” (1 Pet. 5:13). Babylon is a code-word for Rome. Eusebius, the first great Christian historian, wrote in 303 AD that “It is said that Peter’s first epistle, in which he makes mention of Mark, was composed at Rome itself; and that he himself indicates this, referring to the city figuratively as Babylon.”

Rome is called Babylon in other New Testament citations: “Another angel, a second, followed, saying, ‘Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who made all nations drink the wine of her impure passion’” (Rev 14:8; see also Rev 16:19, 17:5, 18:2, 18:10, and 18:21).

These references can’t be to the one-time capital of the Babylonian empire. THAT Babylon had been reduced to an inconsequential village by military defeat and political subjugation; it was no longer a “great city.” From the New Testament perspective, the only candidate for the “great city” mentioned in Revelation is Rome.

Why was Rome called by a code name, Babylon? We know biblical writers sometimes referred to cities under symbolic names (see Rev 11:8). The reason is persecution. The authorities knew that Peter was a leader of the Church, and the Church was not willing to worship the Roman emperor. For Peter to advertise his presence in the capital would be to invite a manhunt and a very short tenure as bishop of Rome.

Cheers,
Bruce

Answer 6

Matthew 16:13-20
13Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?"

14And they said, "Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets."

15He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"

16Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

17And Jesus said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

18"I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.

19"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven."

20Then He warned the disciples that they should tell no one that He was the Christ.



Note- not only is Christ saying that Peter is the ROCK upon which He will build His Church...He is giving Peter the KEYS....keys are an ancient symbol of trust and authority. If you trust someone, you are willing to give them the keys to your home, car, whatever...because you know they will not abuse the responsibility that comes with it.

Peter was given the keys- and was told that what he said, goes.

Answer 7

Christ built His church upon Spiritual Revelation, but
the Catholic church is built upon a man, who denied
the Lord 3 times.

Peter was married.

Peter was apostle to the Jews; Gal 2:7-8, "...the gospel
of the circumcision was UNTO PETER....For he that
wrought effectually in PETER TO THE APOSTLESHIP
OF THE CIRCUMCISION, the same was mighty in me
toward the Gentiles".

Peter was sent to the Jews.

Answer 8

show me any documentation to back up this ridiculos claim The New Testament church was the church founded by Jesus show me please, how this church progressed thru its beginning to today. Show me the things Constitine thru in . Or just shut up or put up.This just shows how little respect you have for Christ.

Answer 9

The Catholic Church was founded by Paul, who never met Jesus. He had his magical Damascus Road delusion and that started what a long-time later became the Catholic Church.

Answer 10

In approx. 33 AD, in Galilee.

It is historically demonstrable.... there are no gaps in continuity, no year you can point at that you can say, "the Catholic church did not exist in this year."

The fact is that bishops in many of the particular churches, Rome's included, can trace their bishopric and their local church back to the first century. I mean, for Pete's sake, the narrative portion of the New Testament _ends_ in the city of Rome!!

That may be an unwelcome fact for Catholic bashers... but it remains a fact.

And as for this alleged "Constantine" business, the church was calling itself "Catholic" (Ignatius of Antioch, one of the churches mentioned in the bible, approx. 102 AD) centuries before Constantine's father was a twinkle in his grandfather's eye!