If people are somehow getting away from religion why are things spiraling down?
1. Crime is way up
2. Race relations is detiorating producing more racists and bigots especially with young people
3. Young people in the educational system have no sense of biblical right and wrong are a group provong to be more dis-respectful and rejecting GOD's obedience.
4. Real Estate in a severs slump.
5.People growing cold to one another and feeling a huge seperation from a secular society...
Has Athesim ever proved to bring one good thing to society?
2007-09-25 07:55:16 · 39 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Wow, you're really the queen of imagined facts and specious reasoning, aren't you?
Why didn't you just write "I don't like atheists"?
It would have served the same purpose, saved you time, and kept you from exposing your lack of writing skills. Most importantly, it would have been far more honest of you.
"Has Athesim ever proved to bring one good thing to society?"
Yes. Good spelling.
2007-09-25 07:57:37 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 35⤊ 3⤋
Yeah, I've noticed that! Another thing I've noticed, is that as there are fewer and fewer PIRATES, there is more and more GLOBAL WARMING! Obviously, pirates reduce our carbon footprint! Correlation=/=causation.
1. Crime is way up
That'd be because we don't do enough for welfare. Many people in the US are impoverished. Thus, they turn to crime to survive. Maybe if the religious institutions in the US weren't exempt from tax, that money could go somewhere-- to the poor.
2. Most atheists I know are very much anti-racism. The Bible supports slavery, you know. Also, bigotry includes hate crimes against LGBTs. Well, most homophobes I know use the Bible to justify their hatred of gays and lesbians.
3. Well, obviously they don't follow the Bible. That's why they're atheists. They still have their own sense of right and wrong, though, and since most towns in the US were founded on religious principles, their moral sense is still guided by something resembling the Bible.
4. What does this have to do with Atheism? I thought it had to do with people buying houses on speculation. Christians buy houses on speculation too, you know :)
5. I've never seen that. I love everyone ^_^
I don't blame all the world's problems on religion-based conflicts, which I could do if I felt thus inclined, so, please, don't try to blame the world's problems on atheism :)
2007-09-25 08:05:37 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
This is a very odd question. How do you link these to atheism? Atheism grew about 6% in the US according to the 2001 US Census information....so I can accept that atheism is growing, but what is the tie to the other items on your list?
For item 1:
Poverty is a more likely number. While poverty numbers have slowly declined, that's only part of the story. The reality is, how the Cesus bureau measures poverty has not kept up with inflation. During the 10 years between 1991 and 2001, inflation has been over 30%, while the poverty wage has only grown 23%. Even so, in 2001, that number was $18,104 for a family of 4. If you made $19,000, you weren't considered in poverty. Crime is primarily driven by poverty. It's Maslow's triangle all over again (look it up, it's great information on what makes humans tick).
Race relations are deteriorating...? They are not as bad as they were in the 1960's when good Christian white people were demanding that blacks have their own waterfountains, places on the bus, etc. Religion did NOT bring about the change in race relations...what brought that about was our system of justice and the supreme court. Brown Vs. the Board of Education. Look that up too.
Young people have no sense of right and wrong, not biblical right and wrong. keep in mind, the bible's sense of right and wrong is not absolute. Each rule has been exploited or broken at the behest of God (Thou shalt not kill being chief among them). Kids simply don't have discipline in the home, including Christian homes. We are too centered as a society on "getting things"...so centered that having 2 cars and a boat and an RV and the latest in every technological creation that we have no time to actually raise kids. Add to that the fact that our economy now requires dual incomes to just afford basic things like a home, and you have the perfect storm for kids being left to their own devices.
Realestate slump? Blame it in institutional investors that were more interested in profit than in making quality loans. Now we all pay the price for the greed of the few, and they will move on to the next debacle. This was not driven by atheists...it's driven by good Christian people that are overwhelmed in greed. Look at the leaders in realestate, and you will find that they are mostly religiously affiliated people...they are not atheists.
People growing cold? The policy of the political process is to divide and conquer. The policy of the religious right is to accuse and defame those that do not adhere to their way of thinking. When you have people that feel they can tell those who disagree with them that they are traitors, that they are disloyal, unpatriotic...what do you think the result will be? I have read history, have you? These are the tactics of all facist regimes. This is a textbook deployment of the psycology of Nazi Germany. Read Mein Kampf, and substitute the word "liberal" for the word "Jew" and see if you can see any difference between what we hear today and what Hitler thought then. When you get done, realize, those who are mouthing this hatred are by and large ALL CHRISTIANS.
Atheism hasn't done this to the world...the world is filled with hatred right now...it's not Atheist terrorists; it's not atheists bombing clinics; it's not atheists bombing civilians; it's not atheists killing innocent people in Iraq (that's Blackwater, a right wing religiously driven private "security" company, better read as militia...a private army).
I don't see your logic...all I see is an opinion, with no facts or data to support it.
2007-09-25 09:24:57 · answer #3 · answered by Night Owl 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
1. Crime isn't universally 'way up'. Look at the crime rates in countries with higher percentages of atheism.
2. There is absolutely no way you can justify that. Of course racism still exists, but it's now illegal in many circumstances to discriminate on the basis of race, whereas not so long ago it was expected.
3. Here you seem to be saying that a rise in atheism has lead to a decline in Christianity. Well duh.
4. Again, not everywhere. And even you would be hard pressed to connect that to atheism.
5. I take it this reflects your personal feelings more than any general societal trend.
2007-09-25 08:18:12 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
I got news for you, sugar.
Crime rates, especially violent crime, have been dropping for several centuries. Murder rates are far lower than they were 100 years ago.
Race relations are better now than at any time in U.S. history. Just 50 years ago, which neighborhood you could live in depended on your race.
I don't want kids to have any biblical sense of right or wrong. I'd rather they learn real morals, and obey the law.
Real estate is in a recent slump due to a speculation bubble that burst. Lesson learned, I hope.
Yes, atheism has proven to be quite good for societies. Northern European countries have a much higher percentage of atheists than America, and have lower crime rates, fewer teen pregnancies, fewer STDs, better school performance...
2007-09-25 08:06:09 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 0⤋
1.crime? thats pretty broud...id like to see a little evidence
2. once again evidence?
3.rejecting "god" is the entire idea of atheism, the goes for the bible too....
4. how the hell do you link, real estate slumps to atheism?
5. the most religous, first world country(america) is the divided and cold one( red/blue). Let's also not forget the most nonsecular country in the world, Iran, now thats a society everyone wants to model.
your first 2 arguments have no evidence... your 3rd and 4th dont make sense, and your 5th is just straight up bullshit...
2007-09-25 11:59:11 · answer #6 · answered by sam 1 · 2⤊ 0⤋
So... you arbitrarily picked 1896 as a factor in time while a dragon landed on earth and commenced killing human beings?... the superiority of bloodshed could no longer in all probability have something to do with the actuality that there became a lots better available ammount of blood to spill than in previous generations i assume... And the devil style of lost interest in something different than what's a minor skirmish on the grand scale now interior the final 50 years i assume... All this sounds logical to me.
2016-10-05 08:32:10 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Go to a high-security prison. Ask any of the inmates what religion they choose to follow.
Not even 0.01% will say that they are Atheists. However, over 50% will be christian.
So, can we conclude that religion has nothing to do with crime rates, or should we conclude - given the data that at least half the jailed criminals are christian - that christianity is really the cause of those higher crime rates?
2007-09-25 09:01:29 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Obviously you are trolling. But for those who don't know the facts:
Check the actual Department of Justice statistics please:
1. Crime is way way down
Property crime rates continue to decline
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/house2.htm
Since 1994, violent crime rates have declined, recently reaching the lowest level ever recorded.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/viort.htm
In fact the states which tend to have the highest crime rates are all in the bible belt.
2. Race relations are much better
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs06/s95race05.pdf
3. There is less crime in the educational system
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/iscs99.pdf
4. Real Estate?? Are you kidding me? What does this have to do with atheism? Does this fall under Coveting your neighbor's house? I thought Christians were not supposed to do that.
5. I love you. Does that sound cold to you?
2007-09-25 08:04:47 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 0⤋
Unfortunately, religious fanaticism has also been rising. BTW, your computer's operating system was probably designed by an ATHEIST (Bill Gates), so if you think atheists haven't done any good, by all means turn it off!
Oh, and 1. The vast majority of criminals are believers, at higher rates than the general population. 2. Racist groups like the KKK and Neo-Nazis are Christian-based. 3. Religion-based schools have equal or higher rates of drug abuse, etc. 4. Can anyone say "predicting the end of the world disc ourages investment?" 5. Funny, I've mainly seen this in believers; we atheists love each other!
2007-09-25 08:03:13 · answer #10 · answered by Brent Y 6 · 8⤊ 0⤋
the majority of mass murderers are religious
race relations deteriorating is a direct influence of bigots and racists not atheists
we need more humanity workers
what does atheism have to do with real estate?
religion makes me go cold
atheism brings great things to a society that is blind to those things
2007-09-25 10:22:50 · answer #11 · answered by slopoke6968 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋