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I don't usually make such direct strikes at Christianity but this has just been bothering me recently.

All the prophecies about non-believers challenging your beliefs, science bringing up reality that goes against your religion and such ~ don't you realise that it was written that way to give you ammunition against non-believers?

If I were to write such a book, I would include such passages that warn you not to believe people that tell you what you believe is false because they are messengers of [insert opposing deity's name] and will lead your eternal soul into damnation etc etc.

I'm not trying to insult people here, I'm just pointing out that of course there's prophecies like this because the author's thought ahead and wrote things to make you doubt people who (indirectly) challenge your faith.

Obviously this is gonna meet lots of retaliation but please try to answer like an adult.

Thanks

2007-09-25 00:02:56 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Please don't bother telling me "But it's the Word of God!" It was written by men to convince that it was inspired by your god. Look at scientology to see how easy that is to do.

2007-09-25 00:13:10 · update #1

djmantx: No, I don't find that convinient. I do find it convinient that it was compiled from a selection of passages, the favourable passages included and the non-favourable passages removed. How can you say that it's a coincidence that it fits together?

2007-09-25 00:15:12 · update #2

jesussaves: Considering what you said was a complete lie (or ignorance on your part), you've proven nothing.

2007-09-25 00:20:02 · update #3

Mc Fly: You mean our bodies developed to use the resources available for us? Wow, I never knew that?

2007-09-25 00:21:25 · update #4

*sigh* if you need an obvious question, how about this:

Do you realise that portions of the Bible are purposefully written to argue against non-believers & reality?

2007-09-25 00:41:37 · update #5

21 answers

Now you know why I left Christianity and converted to Judaism.

2007-09-25 00:06:08 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 5

If you could give a specific scriptural incident, which you cannot...then there would be something to debate here. However, if you are discussing the New Testaments warnings against false doctrine and false prophets, teachers and etc...then you are addressing a portion of the Bible written for believers not as ammunition against non-believers who would attack the Word of God. As well, you use the word convinient and yet the scriptures were written all before the 1st century AD and date back as far as 3000 years ago with regards to historical accuracies and again, the Bible was written by 44 different authors over a period of 1500 years approximately...do you suppose these writers all got together at the Bible Writers Symposium and brainstormed about how to all stick together and get their stories strait? There are warnings in Old Testament times of impending doom that was immediately dispensed to the warned...none of that applies to the people of today. The outcome of a world that has the Gospel proclaimed to it will see an entirely different scenario then those who previously witnessed the wrath of God and didn't live to tell about it. Only there won't be an eternal holding tank of tortured souls that burn for eternity in an eternal lake of fire and brimstone. You see..if you had read your Bible you would know that Gods Word instead states simply this...the lost who do not acknowledge God will perish. This earth and everything in it that doesn't belong to God will simply be consumed and destroyed. The authors didn't think ahead. They documented what was occuring at the time and what God told them to document. All prophecy has been fulfilled. All that waits now is for Christ to come back and end this thing. Love in Christ, ~J~

2007-09-25 00:24:11 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

i'm a Pastor for 30 years and that i will answer your question approximately no longer being on my own with a woman. Pastors have been arrested and accused of misconduct by way of women who "mandatory to speak to the Pastor on my own" for what ever reason the two she did no longer like the respond she have been given, or she had a ingredient for the Pastor. I constantly be certain that my spouse is with me if a woman asks for a gathering, if carried out the impressive way the Pastor and his spouse is a ministry team, the spouse of a Pastor (if she is a ingredient of the team) is there for the ladies and young infants to experience mushy and for the risk-free practices of her husband. yet all people knows and is conscious that my door is open 24 hours an afternoon, yet once you're a woman or a baby they are instructed up front that my spouse (Asawa), "Sister Cathy" would be interior the assembly additionally. A Christian never places themselves able of temptation or helps themselves to be placed the place temptation (or lies) might occure. As for something of your statements, a Christian woman and Christian guy, knows and is conscious that each and each has a place and activity, interior the orginization set up of God. Angels have their jobs, women have theirs and men have theirs.

2016-10-05 08:01:43 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

"All the prophecies about non-believers challenging your beliefs, science bringing up reality that goes against your religion and such"

Can you please show us some quotes from the Bible that are examples of what you are talking about? the Bible doesnt say anything about "science bringing up reality that goes against your religion"

In my view the more we learn in science, the more in uncovers and compliments truths in the Bible.

Archaeologists are constantly uncovering cities and and things mentioned only in the Bible, that were previously thought to be fantasy. And the more we learn about nuclear physics and outer space, the more it shows the majesty of God, and the less likely it all came together by the random spewing forth of particles at the big bang. (I am not discounting the big bang, just saying that it wasn't random)

2007-09-25 00:40:49 · answer #4 · answered by welliamwallace 2 · 1 0

i can't say that i've never thought that before (and yes, i'm christian), but then there are things that are so specific to these times... there's a verse in the book of daniel (this is for the lady that converted to judaism) referring to the end times. it talks about people getting hit with such intense heat that their flesh melts off before they hit the ground. sounds a lot like what would happen if we got hit with a nuclear bomb. some others in the same book say that people will travel to and fro (cars), and that there will be a vast increase of knowledge (technology age) in the end times. then there's the verse in revelation that speaks of an angel pouring his cup on the sun, causing intense heat, which brings global warming to mind, which we now know to be something more like ''galactic'' warming. then there's the fact that people who specialize in biblical prophecy have traced all the names mentioned end-time prophecy (gog, magog, ishmael, etc) to specific countries, and have successfully predicted wars due to this. not to mention the US pentagon has tried to decipher a code in the torah (jewish tradition maintains that there is a code in the torah that holds all the secrets of the end-times), and all kinds of other things, like the prediction of the first fall of jerusalem at the hands of the romans (70 AD sounds right). the book of isaiah accurately portrayed the act of crucifixion about 400 years before the persians invented it, and about 700 years before the romans adopted it as a means of torture/ execution. there's a verse in the book of proverbs (in the third chapter, i think. it says ''i was with You when You drew a circle on the face of the deep'') that tells us that the earth is round. another story from the book of daniel shows how good a ten-day diet of nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables cleanse the body, then a few years ago medical experts found out that a ''daniel fast'' of ten days cleanses the body of toxins and increases our metabolism and our ability to concentrate. there are tons of other things that i don't have enough room to list here.

i'm not mad, nor am i retaliating. it's a valid question. all i'm saying is that these are the kinds of things that convince me, personally.

2007-09-25 00:25:16 · answer #5 · answered by That Guy Drew 6 · 0 0

Considering that the KJV bible had withstood every challenge to try to prove it with error and found right. Has proven things that science found out about centuries later. (the earth is round, explained the evaporation process among others) has has prophecies fulfilled. I submit to you that it must be the work of God. No man is smart enough to create a work written over a course of 6000 yrs and have it be written by many authors, fitting together better than a jigsaw puzzle with layers most men never see because of doubt. Must be God.

2007-09-25 00:11:16 · answer #6 · answered by jesussaves 7 · 3 1

It isn't good to judge God's word by what a mere man did with scientology.
The true fact is, it IS inspired. You'd have to read it and understand it to get it though. But only when you BELIEVE and DO, then it opens your eyes.

2007-09-25 01:43:40 · answer #7 · answered by Jed 7 · 0 0

Just from a logical stand point. Shouldn't it impress you that many people wrote the Bible thousands of years ago, many thousands of years apart, and even to you, an unbeliever see the bases are well covered. I receive my revelation from God the Bible is merely a tool he uses to communicate.

2007-09-25 00:11:03 · answer #8 · answered by djmantx 7 · 3 1

Yes, but those propechies are common sense inevitablities, true of any system of belief.

I don't believe that science goes against Christianity. Natural science (a philosophy based on the unprovable assumption that the cosmos is an absoslute) goes against Christianity.

2007-09-25 00:09:55 · answer #9 · answered by Aztec276 4 · 2 2

I will only answer this question in this way, you say do not tell you it is the bible that the bible was written by men, Did you know that scientology is also written by men, the only difference is those who wrote the bible was inspired by God, & those who wrote scientology was inspired by satan.

2007-09-25 00:30:08 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Ya, I'm with you,I did notice that, and have you ever notice how the human body was designed to exchange oxygen to stay alive, and it just so happens that someone (I won't say who) put a bunch of this "OXYGEN" all around us.
I think someone is f-ckin with us and I am going to get to the bottom of it.

2007-09-25 00:18:12 · answer #11 · answered by Mc Fly 5 · 0 0

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