Texas Holdem Quiz #10.. lots of questions Part1???????

Question

You have AdKc on the bb. Its heads up 5/10. Its been a harcore agressive game (lots of 3betting, c/rs, some allins). You have been getting the best of him and were up ALOT, but he got lucky twice and now stacks are both 3k. He has never ever min raised b4. However, he has called the flop then raised on the turn. Usually, its a strong hand, but one time you caught him with air.

Anyways he raised to 35 on the button/sb. You r/r to 135. He calls (quite a huge range actually as you 3bet alot).
Pot is 270. Flop comes out AdJc6h. You bet out 200 and he calls. Pot is 670 now. Turn comes out 2s (rainbow board). FIRST question... Do you go into c/c mode for as you are either way ahead or way behind? Lets say you bet out (makes the quiz more interesting)...
You bet 575 now. He now minimum raises to 1150. If you call you will have 1525 behind you. If you go allin now it will be around a pot sized raise. Question #2 call or allin?

Lets say you just call. River comes out Js. Pot is 1485.

Question number 3... Do you check/call, bet (if so how much) or just check/fold?


PS: you're wondering why there are question marks behind "part 1". I will post more if i get 8 stars or more. (blackmail works)!. Also, IF i do post more quizzes im wondering whether you want harder quizzes, easier ones, or its perfect... Well enjoy this one because it took me forever to post this one up..

Question #4 lets say you check. He pushes allin. Call or fold?
Question #5: Which decision was most important in this hand?
Answer ALL 5 questions to be eligible for best answer... shouldnt be a problem as there havent been any good texas holdem questions on yahoo answers out there recently right?

@Tank64 on answer #4 you say you are getting 3-1. However, im pretty sure you are getting a little worse than 2-1 as he bet a little more than the pot with the allin.

@Adam S... 3betting pf is definitly definitly standard and i have no doubt that it is the correct play. Let me explain why..
1. You probaly have the best hand so you are getting more value out of it.
2. You are taking control of the pot and now you can fire a c-bet. If you just call, most likely you will have to c/f on the flop when he fires a c-bet.
3. In a standard game, from my expirience 75% of the time you win the pot right out which is what you want as you're OOP.
4. You define your hand alot more. Calling the pf, your oppenent could put you on a huge range of hands, but when you 3bet he has to know your hand is somewhat a little decent and will tend to be less agressive and play back at you less.

Lets all i can think of...

Answer 1

question 1: i do take the c/c line here, he called your flop bet on a completely dry board, what could he possibly have? he could have a jack, a pocket pair like 8-8 or 7-7, maybe an ace with a weak kicker that he's playing cautiously, maybe a big hand that he's slowplaying like 6-6 or A-6, or maybe if he's an advanced enough player he's calling here to take it away on the next street...all this adds up to c/c, if he has a middle pair then he will likely throw it away if you bet, and he won't have many outs to beat you if he checks behind on the turn...if he has an ace with a weak kicker he will most often bet, and again if he checks then he won't have more than 3 outs...if he's slowplaying, then we save ourselves from a really tricky decision if we bet and get raised, and if he's going to take it away then we should give him the opportunity to do so

question 2: he is NOT making a min-raise as a bluff, no one ever does that and i can't think of a good reason to do that...he is trying to price us in clearly, and since he's had a big hand almost every time, that makes it more suspicious...i know it's easy to say without having been at the table, but i think i would think for a really long time and actually throw it away...again, i don't know if i could back that up at the table, but being able to see things from away from the table i think folding is best

question 3: after c/c, i would check and see what he does...if he bets a really small amount i would look him up, but if he bets any decent-sized amount i would be ready to immediately relinquish the hand...again, it's pretty clear that he has something where he wants us to hang around, he is not messing around here

question 4: instafold

question 5: the turn play is by far the most important, as you should be able to see for yourself based on all the questions you were able to ask about the river...you see the big mess you can get into after betting the turn and especially after calling the raise

and as a final note, just calling pre-flop with A-K in this spot is simply bad poker...you need to put your money in with the best of it and no matter who you are playing, when it's heads-up and the button raises it A-K is ahead of their range, i don't care who they are...flat-calling is weak and losing poker

Answer 2

Tough question. Heads up with 2 aggressive players is a Max Volatility situation, so it's almost impossible to determine a 'right' play for the situation.

1. Bet out. He could have anything from a suited Q 10 on up. There's no reason to think he's ahead yet, so let's give him a chance to fold.

2. The min raise is a little spooky. Smells like strength, but there are a lot of possibilities still, including him trying to push you off a continuation bet. You're looking at 575 for a pot of 2395, with top pair, top kicker, and no flush or straight draws on the board. I'd call.

3. I'm dead if his Min raise was based on a AJ, 66 or 22. I'm the winner if it was a KK, QQ, Ax or stone bluff. No reason to think betting will push him off a better hand than me, or that he'll call with a worse, so check.

4. Regardless of his bet, I have to call. Pot's at nearly 3K ... 4500 with his all-in, so I'm getting 3-1. I figure it's 50-50 at best that he has the AJ, 66, 22, and probably even less than that. I call.

5. The critical point is the Raise on the turn. You're only in for 910 at this point, out of 3000. Do you have him beat, or not?

I really don't think a mistake was made on the hand. In a heads up situation, the AK should win this exchange far more than it loses. Given the aggressive nature of the players, the fact that it's heads up, and the board, there's just no way to be sure.

But you have to ask yourself, in a situation as volatile as the one you described, are you going to fold away a hand this good, with a board this ambivalent? If so, then I would contend that the situation is TOO volatile for you, and you should leave the table with your 2000, and find a 6 or 10 man table, where you can play a smarter, smoother game.

{Coincidentally, that's what I do. I hate heads up play. :p}
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Edit:

Dun,
The post-turn pot was 670, you bet 575, he raised to 1150, you called. That makes the post-river pot 2970 (in your note, you have it as a pot of 1485; did I do the math wrong?) When he goes all-in, your call is 1525 at a pot of 4495. That's 3-1, right?

Answer 3

Question #1: This guy probably has a pocket pair, and they could be Js or 6s, which puts you way behind. I would bet the turn.

Question #2: Ok, so I bet the turn. His call and minimum raise sets me aback because I feel that the minimum raise is a suck in bet. It shouts “Please call me, it’s so cheap. Put your money in the pot”. I think at this point, I would just call the bet, not go all in.

Question #3: With the river being another J, I would check. If he bets I would call because it is now less likely that he has pocket Js. I don’t put him on pocket 2s, so if he did happen to have pocket 6s or a J, well then that is just a lesson learned for next time. Although, on the other hand, with the river being another J, this might be the time to push all in seeing as you have only 40 more than the pot. No, I change my mind. I check/call (all in or whatever his bet is).

Question #4: Call. There are only 2 hands to be afraid of, pocket 6s or a J and I doubt he has either.

Question #5: I think the most important decision of the hand was to call his bet on the turn or to go all in. Not going all in may come back to bite me in the *** if he did have a J and tripped up on the river.


I think I answered all the questions...

Answer 4

Wow...we should all get 10 pts just for answering this.
Pt 1: He's calling you down at this point, throw out a bet of around 500.
Pt 2: It's not like he's playing this hand with A2 or a pair of 2s. He'd be out by now and you say he usually has good cards. I'm also guessing (pure guess) that if he had JJ he'd have raised more preflop. I'd put him on either AK or AQ. If he's been slowplaying AJ, he's mighty good. Raise all-in. You've either got him beat with your kicker or you're splitting the pot.
Pt 3: That's a just plain mean river to throw at us. :) Bet 1000 and pray he goes out. Even with that feeling crawling up your neck you're pretty much stuck with going for it now.
Pt 4: This is one of those "happy land of faeries and elves where I only have to analyze my play and not actually have to be in the situation" decisions. I'd like to say I'd fold. Seriously though, I doubt I would. This is exactly why I'd bet the river instead of checking it.
Pt 5: No doubt reraising 100 with a drawing hand like AK preflop was the dumbest decision in this hand, (really should have called the raise,) not sure it was the most important. I'd say the turn decision was the most important part of the hand. It's the point where you're defining your hand, your moves and how to react to his action. The flop pretty much played itself.
UPDATE
Okay, okay I was wrong. Honestly I thought it was a bet by me and a raise by sb. Raising the bet is correct but I'd argue like hell that 3 betting a reraise with AK is just plain wrong. You 3-bet preflop with AA, KK, maybe QQ and that's about it. Overplaying AK is one of the biggest mistakes in poker. IT'S STILL A DRAWING HAND!

Answer 5

I've got AK and on the flop I have top pair with a possible back door straight. So I will bet on the flop and 4th street. If he raises me I'll call.

When the second J comes on the river that gives me reason to pause. If I bet and he calls or raises me then I believe he has the goods. You said usually his hand is strong. The way I'm betting he has to put me on the ace. So I don't put him on a bluff because I just caught him in a bluff. Would he bluff me so soon after getting caught. I think not. I fold if he raises my bet on the river. I must bet on the river to possibly take the pot without confrontation. If he just calls then I still have a chance to win with top pair.

Answer 6

Early on I would put him on a A,Q or A,K ... but after he continues betting and raising I would put him on A,J. You are basicly pot commited, so either all in or fold. Hope he doesnt have the J and you out kick him. Of course he could have pocket 6,6. I would go all in.

Answer 7

i dont know sorry