There's a soldier at work who, through no fault of his own, was not on the duty roster for the last two months. Because of this, one of his NCOs decided that he, and only he, has to take out the trash for the next month. There was no counseling involved, and it is not extra duty. I need a general public ruling. Duty entails working at most two hours more than normal about four days of the month.
2007-09-23 17:09:50 · 14 answers · asked by DOOM 7 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
He also made it known that he was not on the duty roster.
2007-09-23 17:21:40 · update #1
And he's the only white junior enlisted soldier we have on our shift.
2007-09-23 17:22:31 · update #2
He informed his first line supervisor, who is the person who is punishing him.
It is not me, it is a soldier in my company.
2007-09-23 18:42:40 · update #3
NO.
2007-09-23 17:15:15 · answer #1 · answered by lilly4 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Yes I do believe it is discrimination. My dad spent 24 years in the Navy and retired as a Navy Chief (E-7) and I dated a guy in the Navy for about a year and he used to love to complain about his duty weekends so, I know a bit about duty rosters. It seems weird to me that your comrade was left off of the duty roster to begin with. Not trying to be a conspiracy theorist or anything but it almost seems intentional, like he's being black-balled possibly. Has he had altercations with this NCO before. You noted that he had in fact notified his superiors about being left off the roster. Were these notifications in writing or were they just verbal? If they were verbal they will be harder to prove. That's why people should put everything in writing. I'm pretty sure that situations like this are mentioned in the Bluejacket Manual (or whatever manual your branch uses) but, the burden of proof is on your friend and if he cannot prove that he is being wrongfully treated or discriminated against, he doesn't have a chance. Also, making him take out the trash for a month isn't right but, it could be worse. I would advise him to wait on reporting this because trying to make an issue out of it would more than likely make things worse. If things continue then, he should see his NCO's superior and discuss his grievances. However, if things do come to this, he is going to need proof like witnesses, written proof, etc.
2007-09-23 20:36:06 · answer #2 · answered by little_ash_2003 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
How would this be discrimination? First off you said he (or you) was not on the duty roster for 2 months. This "entails working at most two hours more than normal about for days of the month." Out of the past two months he let that pass to somebody else that had to pick up for his lack of honor and integrity. "There was no counseling involved, and it is not extra duty." so what are you complaining about? You said, "He also made it known that he was not on the duty roster." But who did he tell? Was it his NCOIC, did he tell you, or is it you? You don't give enough information to base a conclusion.
Sounds to me like he let it slide and was either caught or afraid of being caught. He skated for 2 months without doing his fair share. I don't care what your/his color is that is irrelevant. He neglected his duty, by letting this go.
2007-09-23 17:52:04 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
It sounds more like being fair, other troops had to stand duty, the least he could do is take out the trash
2007-09-24 04:22:33 · answer #4 · answered by joseph b 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
If there is a regular rotation for duty, and your never on it for 2 months, and you know that you should be on it, then you should have brought that info to your next in the chain of command,
To not bring it forward is a fault.
PRO PATRICIA
"NEVER PASS A FAULT"
2007-09-23 17:22:27 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes, it's discrimination; and no, it isn't an illegal form, or morally repugnant. In most cases, discrimination is a good thing. There are certain areas where it's inappropriate, but this isn't one of them. The fact that there's a coincidental finding (race) really doesn't alter the fact that he didn't do his share the past two months.
2007-09-23 17:32:13 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Definitely not. Since he's not on the duty roster, (I guess) the Nco's decided to just give him something to do.
2007-09-23 17:18:27 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Nope he knew he should have been standing duty and didn't say a thing so someone else had to pick up the slack sounds like he got off easy
2007-09-23 17:19:26 · answer #8 · answered by tap158 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
It doesn't matter if it is discrimination or not, it is the military..........they discriminate 24-7, sex, rank, age, race, it happens in every branch. Don't ask, Don't tell, that is discrimination.........If you don't like it, then you are in the wrong job. The military has always discriminated and they always will, and there will always be a regulation or UCMJ article to cover there ***.
2007-09-23 17:52:46 · answer #9 · answered by scm3582 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
There must be a type of discrimination alleged, i.e. color, creed, national origin, religion, sex, sexual orientation, age, in order for there to be any discrimination.
If it is merely something personal, then there is no discrimination.
2007-09-23 17:17:52 · answer #10 · answered by MenifeeManiac 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yep obviously someone hates white people!
2007-09-25 07:46:35 · answer #11 · answered by Nadia Crowe 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋