2007-09-23 16:30:31 · 7 answers · asked by smkeller 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
CB4UP, the concept that we are given or have "Immortal or Eternal Souls" entered Christianity long before the sixth century. It just isn't to be found in the Old Testament.
2007-09-23 16:42:40 · update #1
Jeremiah, you are contending that Christianity is the only ticket to procurring an Immortal Soul?
2007-09-23 16:44:50 · update #2
jeff b, I hope not baiting. Stimulating the thought process. There is a huge misunderstanding of Biblical scripture that probable 99% of all Christians are not aware of at all. ie, the Biblical Jew did not believe in any sort of afterlife for man.
2007-09-23 16:48:56 · update #3
wefmiester, you are talking about the New Testament here.
2007-09-23 16:58:50 · update #4
morkie, this is close, but not right on. This resurrection is more the supersititious believe that the bodies would come back to life. Not be granted Immortal Life.
Early church fathers defended the resurrection of the dead against the pagan belief that the immortal soul went to heaven immediately after death [3]. Currently, however, the popular belief among some Christians is much more in line with what the pagans taught: that the souls of the righteous do go straight to heaven [4][5], and the resurrection of the dead is downplayed[6].
2007-09-23 17:18:50 · update #5
tuberoot, "His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom" this refers to God, not man.
2007-09-23 17:25:24 · update #6
Eccl. 9:5,6 (KJV) -- For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Also their love and their hatred, and their envy is now perished; Neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
2007-09-23 17:44:09 · update #7
Christianity is only partly based on the OT and Judaism.
Mostly it is based on the mystery religions of Greece, the Near East, and Egypt. These religions had other worlds, immortal souls, and lots of contradictory beliefs called 'mysteries' like 3 gods in 1, virgin births, death and resurrection of the son of the main god, etc.
Dante's "Divine Comedy" consolidates all this mythmaking (covering 1500 years of Christianity) into an epic poem that most Christian ministers refer to as if it were part of the original canon.
So, to recap:
1. Mystery religions provide much of Christianity's fantasy element.
2. The "Divine Comedy" captures it all and puts it in a form easy for preachers to use.
2007-09-23 16:52:22 · answer #1 · answered by nora22000 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
26 " 'But the court will sit, and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever. 27 Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.' (Daniel 7)
5 Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment,
nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.
6 For the LORD watches over the way of the righteous,
but the way of the wicked will perish. (Psalm 1)
10 Better is one day in your courts
than a thousand elsewhere;
I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God
than dwell in the tents of the wicked.
11 For the LORD God is a sun and shield;
the LORD bestows favor and honor;
no good thing does he withhold
from those whose walk is blameless. (Psalm 84)
Psalm 37:18
The days of the blameless are known to the LORD, and their inheritance will endure forever.
I don't know your background. But if this is just poetry to you, then I guess you cannot see. The Lord gave promises and will keep them, and His love enduring forever is not going to go blank when the last sinner dies. I wonder what you are expecting!
But I suppose that I have years of learning to get through with you on, perhaps you being convinced that you are right about what you say.
2007-09-24 00:19:28 · answer #2 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
When the Sadducees questioned Jesus about the continuation of life after death He responded by citing the Torah:
Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."
Matthew 22:29-32
Besides this, how could God promise to give the land of Canaan to Abraham and to his descendants as an everlasting possession if there is no resurrection from the dead?
Abraham never inherited the land in his lifetime.
Either there is a resurrection of the dead or God is a liar.
"The whole land of Canaan, where you are now an alien, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God."
Genesis 17:8
On the contrary - both quotes are from the Torah.
The Torah teaches continuation of the soul after physical death.
2007-09-23 23:48:58 · answer #3 · answered by wefmeister 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
But there is reference to the idea of immortality in the Old Testament...
"He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death." - 2 Macabees chapter 12: 43-44
2007-09-23 23:47:03 · answer #4 · answered by morkie 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Jesus wasn't in the OT either - at least not as the begotten Son of God.
BTW, ONLY Christian souls are immortal.
Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
2007-09-23 23:38:10 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
If you are limited to those constraints then obviously there is no basis for it. At this point I take it that you're baiting the audience hehehe.
2007-09-23 23:43:33 · answer #6 · answered by Jeff B 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Copied it from Islam after losing too many debates ????
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2007-09-23 23:34:23 · answer #7 · answered by kloneme 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋