Do all Good people goto Heaven?

Question

If all good people goto Heaven, why does the Bible say differently?

(1) Why does the Bible say David did not goto Heaven.
Acts 2:34 For David did not ascend to heaven

(2) Why does the Bible say no one has ever gone into Heaven except Jesus? (Obviously, this refers to those who died before Christ went to Heaven, not the ones select after the event of Pentecost 33 C.E)

John 3:13
13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man

(3) Why does the Bible say those in the Tombs will raise in that Hour?

John 5:28-29
28 "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice,

29 and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.

Take a look at Job.

Job 14:13-15

13 "If only you would hide me in the She'ol (Grave)
and CONCEAL ME till your anger has passed!
If only you would SET ME A TIME
and THEN REMEMBER ME!

14 If a man dies, will he live again?
All the days of my hard service
I WILL WAIT FOR MY RENEWAL TO COME.

15 You will call and I will answer you;
you will long for the creature your hands have made.

Carlita

Peter was seeing a covenant, not him actually talking to Jesus. Moses and Elijah represented the law and the prophets...

Wondering Faith

John and Matthew doesn't disagree with me at all.

You're just taking irreverent scriptures to guard your beliefs.

Lets look at these scriptures you quoted.

--==John==--

John 3:3,5
In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."

5Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.


(--) As you can see, no one can enter into the Kingdom of Heavens unless they are born again. And as you can see, David and Job was NOT Born Again, so they did not goto Heaven.
John 3:12
12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

What Jesus was implying here is that Nicodemus couldn't understand Earthly things, so how could Jesus teach him Heavenly things?


So as you can see, what you just said was irreverent to whats being said, and its not even being talked about in these versus

--==Mathew==--
This scripture is also irreverent. Why? Because these scriptures was referring to his disciples, those who lived after Christ went to Heaven, and they were selected to be in Heaven with Jesus.

Matthew 5:1-3
1 Now when he saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, 2 and he began to teach them saying:

So the fact is, John 3:13 still applies because Jesus was the first "man" to goto Heaven - but after the apostles died, they went to Heaven with him, because they were chosen to go there.

No, those scriptures do not disagree with each other at all.

Based on your post, you seem to be a "Christian". If you're not, then you totally fooled me since you claim Jehovah's Witnesses wrong.

The thing is, you're not understanding my points on who goes to Heaven.

Jesus was the first "man" to into heaven, and all the faithful men and women who died before this did not go into Heaven. But what Jesus was talking about in Matthew is the ones who are selected to goto Heaven, which were the born again Christians. And these have not died before Jesus went into Heaven.. Thats how these points do not disagree with each other.

Nina

No one is taking verses out of context.

Answer 1

Only the 144,000 anointed ones will be in Heaven, where they will rule as kings and priests, with Jesus. Rev. 5:9-10, 14:1-3

Answer 2

Well let's see. I guess I can't decide as we have a judge. Who knows what happens after Revelation? Isn't this foolish arguing over words? It said, come let us reason together. Have you met a reasonable person or an honest man? I didn't take that course anywhere. They don't teach how to think because they don't know. Does it say there were no good people, even Jesus. You'd have to know everything to be good. I guess Jesus will define the word for our purposes. Let me drag this in as I just thought of it. The universe seems to be governed by laws. I would suppose the spiritual laws follow the same pattern. If you want to fly, you could say that you can only fly in the name of physics. If physics was a man, like the father or arbiter of physics, then it wouldn't really be the man, but more the laws or the upholder of the laws. Still you fly because of the law or with it. It would be good to you if you could fly. If you'd rather do something else, you could do that with or within physics, like with spiritual laws and you could be said to be free (know the truth and the truth will set your free) by knowing and properly applying the laws. You sited the scripture in Revelation, the good deeds to life. Can we really process the whole scriptures in context. The spirit can. Even science uses relativity. Something is true in one situation, time and depending on what you're trying to do. Grandmother's house left, store right, right? Of course not, the opposite is always true to, it's just the long way. Let Jesus judge. Don't we have to decide? Sure. Life is made of absolutes and paradoxes. We have two hemisphere of the brain and two eyes to see 3D. There's two sides to every story, but that's a generalization. The point is that people argue forever, partly because things can be looked at from two plus and infinite number or perspectives. You decide, my brain is tired. I swear, I hear someone saying, he doesn't believe in the Bible and how does he know what to do. The Bible should be true for an eternity, as far as I know and I try to look to the spirit to see what to do, isn't that what all scripture points to being our destiny and the point of the whole thing? Adam didn't ask God, in a way you might say he asked Satan, Eve, the tree, anything but God. In five seconds it's a whole new scene and we have to stay tuned and not be arrogant or arguementative, I think, anyway. But aaall the time.

Answer 3

Just before he ascended to heaven, he said to his faithful disciples: “I am going my way to prepare a place for you . . . and will receive you home to myself, that where I am you also may be.”—John 14:2, 3.
Obviously, then, some good people go to heaven. But do all good people go to heaven? What about man’s home—the earth? Is it to be destroyed by nuclear war to become a burned cinder floating in space? Definitely not. The Bible says: “A generation is going, and a generation is coming; but the earth is standing even to time indefinite.” (Ecclesiastes 1:4) If It is to Stay, it needs to be Inhabited By Not only Animals.. But PEOPLE as well.

Answer 4

hi brother jr. let me just make this simple cause i think you already know and as i only just beginning to study i think i got it down pact. you tell me if i'm wrong. the only individuals who go to heaven are the 144,000 that are chosen from here on earth and have to die in order to fill that place, right. the rest of us will (righteous and humbile ones) live on the earth in a earthly paradise. why are the 144,000 for? they are co rulers and will stand by jesus on the big day. let me just say. ever since ive began studying, ive gained such a strong relationship with jehovah and no matter what any one says jr. at the end of the day, we need jehovahs approval not haughty individuals who aren't willing to listen. thanks

Answer 5

No.
Besides giving just Scriptual answers,
I'd like to give an answer from my heart.
(along w/ years of research)

It doesn't make sense that God would
MAKE this planet for us,
to live on for such a short time.
Then take us to heaven to live w/ Him.
Wouldn't He just cut out the middle,
I mean,
if He wanted us to live w/ Him in
heaven in the 1st place,
wouldn't He just have us there w/ Him in the 1st place..?...

Believe in the Resurrection of the Christ.
Our faith is based on this.
If it's not, then your faith is useless.
1 Cor 15 is all about the promised Resurrection.
(this last paragraph is From the Bible)

EDIT:
After Judas leaves,
Jesus introduces an entirely new celebration,
or commeration, w/ his faithful apostles.
He takes a loaf, says a prayer of thanks,
breaks it, and gives it to them, saying: "Take, eat."
He explains:
"This means my body which is to be given in your behalf.
Keep doing this in remembrance of me."
When each has eaten of the bread,
Jesus takes a cup of wine,
evidently the 4th cup used in the Passover service.
He also says a prayer of thanks over it,
passes it to them, asks them to drink from it,
and states:
"This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood,
which is to be poured out in your behalf."
So this is, in fact,
a memorial of Jesus' death.
each year on Nisan 14 it is to be repeated,
as Jesus says,
in remembrance of him.
It will call to memory of the celebrants what Jesus
and his heavenly Father have done
to provide escape for humankind
from the condemnation of death.
For the Jews who become Christ's followers,
the celebration will replace the Passover.
The new covenant,
which is made operative by Jesus' shed blood,
replaces the old Law covenant.
It is mediated by Jesus Christ between 2 parties---
on the 1 hand, Jehovah God,
and on the other,
144,000 spirit-begotten Christians.
Besides providing for the forgiveness of sins,
the covenant allows for the formation
of a heavenly nation of king-priests.

No, all good ppl {or saved} do not go to heaven, after death.
It is for the 144,000 that are in this new covenant.

Answer 6

No, I believe King David answers your ???, at

Psalms 37:29 "29 The righteous themselves will possess the earth,
And they will reside forever upon it."

Verse 22 " For those being blessed by him will themselves possess the earth,
But those upon whom evil is called by him will be cut off."

Verse 11 " But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace."

Verse 9 "For evildoers themselves will be cut off,
But those hoping in Jehovah are the ones that will possess the earth."

Answer 7

i'm going to pass in the time of the rapture of the church it quite is a different adventure. the 2d coming of Christ quite occurs after the tribulation era. Then we are able to come again with Christ to stay on earth for 1000 years.

Answer 8

i find this an interesting question...but i dont really have an answer..just another question..Jesus was speaking to Moses and an angel one point..Moses. seemed to ascend to heaven...where was Moses when they spoke if he was not in heaven?

Answer 9

HI Bro

Answer 10

Because, like Jesus said, ""No one is good— except God alone."

And likeswise it says, "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right and never sins." Ec 7:20