CHRISTIANS: If Jesus was the Messiah, why is the prophecy in Isaiah unfulfilled?

Question

"And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks:nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."

KJV, Isaiah 2:4

Answer 1

jesus was the messenger of god. his message was so effective that people forgot god & considered the messenger as god.

Answer 2

That reference and many others will be fulfilled when He returns to earth. He came first as the Sacrificial Lamb to take away the sins of the World. On His return He is coming as the Judge who will Judge the world and those that are still in their sins will be punished those that have accepted His propitiation will be granted to enter the New Jerusalem. A good illustration of this is to imagine you are standing looking at a mountain, you see the peak but as you climb it you see second peak beyond it. The first peak is like the prophesies of the Suffering Messiah, the Second is the Judge. There is a valley between the peaks representative of the time between His first and Second appearing. How could the Messiah have been both the suffering Lamb and the Reining Lion of Judah at the same time? Your error is that you do not understand the concept of the One Messiah making two appearances!

Answer 3

Because THAT particular prophecy will be fulfilled when Christ returns. There are several more prophecies concerning Christ that WILL be fulfilled.

Let me ask you this:
Who does Isaiah 53 talk about? Why did the earliest Christians, who were Jews, believe that Christ's death on the cross fulfilled this prophecy?

How could Jesus have made himself be born in Bethlehem , in fulfillment of Micah 5:2 (see also1 Samuel 17:58 to show how it also fulfills Christ being of the lineage of David)?

What about Isaiah 9:6-7? Just wondering who you think might have fulfilled that, or do you think that is as yet unfulfilled as well?

And, while I guess it might someday be conceivable that DNA could narrow down to exactly which tribe a Jewish person belongs, I'm not sure Jews will be clamoring to submit to such testing, certainly not every Jew, at any rate. So whoever is the Messiah, who had to be of the lineage of David, had to have been born BEFORE the destruction of the temple in the fall of Jerusalem, where this family information was safely kept.

Is there anyone else who was born before that time that has fulfilled any prophecies, much less the amount that Jesus Christ fulfilled and so accurately as well?

For more information about how Christ fulfilled prophecies about the Messiah, and how he will yet fulfill ALL the rest in the future, you could read scripture, of course, but also "The Promise," by Hal Lindsey.

"The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel is also pretty good.

Answer 4

Had you read the beginning of this prophecy you would know it is the same reference Jesus read from in the synagogue. After this tells of the future yet to come. Jesus had to make the ultimate sacrifice to prepare us for this time. This prophecy is soon to be fulfilled. No one will know the time of the end but, the signs place it within the next 20 to 30 years.

Answer 5

I personaly hope the world would work twoards that goal Jesus or no Jesus. We should all learn to get along better harm less think wiser ect. Infact turning the world into a better place is my job ;)

Answer 6

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they've been talking about that "20 or 30 years" for over 2,000. Totally missing the point.

Fulfillment of the Messiah prophecy was embodied by Jesus' life story - ego death and restoration of the authentic Christ/Self - as the ONLY way to peace, purpose and contributing each person's gifts to the world. Because? The Messiah is in each of us.

The Second Coming of the true essential nature is only necessary because we are programmed with an limited ego identity by our early environment. Returning to this rarefied state of consciousness - authentic being - is tantamount to raising yourself from the dead - hence his exaggerated example.

The learned identity is tenacious, and disconnecting our perception from the imprinted fears and attachments - without crashing the system is exceedingly difficult. Ask any psychiatrist.

No other religious tradition (and they all offer paths for ego transcendence) offers this perfect embodiment of the psychological path to reestablishing our natural state of empowerment and unity with god/reality. Without this internal second coming - reality the mirror of mind simply continues to produce a holographic experience based on the ego's program, reproducing a replica of the chaotic frequencies/conflictedness of the interior psychological battle.

If you want to understand how to achieve this powerful intersection of psychology and physics, you would be better off to read Jesus' actual words in the Gospel of Thomas. However, most Christians are too attached to the apocalyptic additions to the New Testament, as you can see by the answers. They don't know any better.

But, Jesus wasn't just talking psychology, i.e. your faith makes you whole, he was teaching a unique, novel approach to changing the world (the reality around you) by changing your state of consciousness, i.e. being your true Self, thereby creating a new heaven and new earth. He was brilliant and we shouldn't blame him for trying - despite the misunderstandings that followed - AND certainly shouldn't blame him for the nonsense written above.

Answer 7

Because it is not time yet. But it will come to past just as it is written. Christ once prophsized that "THIS generation of Jews, ( the Jews that are born after 1948) the (Good figs) shall not pass away until all these things / prophesies have happened : Mark 13: 30.

Answer 8

when Jesus was born this was his first coming. during his life he fulfilled many prophecies from the old testament. but there are prophecies that refer to his second coming at the end of the world as we know it. when he comes again Isaiah 2:4 will be fulfilled and there will be peace in the world for a 1000 years.

Answer 9

This will take place when Jesus comes back.

Then Jesus will rule.

Isaiah 9

6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, [b] Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David's throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.

Answer 10

This prophecy is yet unfulfilled.

Here is an interesting tidbit to help explain the difference between Jesus' first and second coming:

In Luke 4:16-21, Jesus stands in the synagogue, is handed the book of the prophet Isaiah, and reads to the group:

Luke 4:16-21 So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written:
“ The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me,
Because He has anointed Me
To preach the gospel to the poor;
He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to the captives
And recovery of sight to the blind,
To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD.”

Then He closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him. And He began to say to them, “Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”

Amazingly, those words describe exactly the age we are currently living in, the "age of grace." The Holy Spirit of God is at work TODAY doing these things: preaching the gospel to the poor; setting us free - giving us liberty - from the oppression of sin and death; healing the brokenhearted; giving sight to the spiritually blind.

BUT

Read the rest of the verse from Isaiah 61, where Jesus left off:
"...and the day of vengence of our God."

This describes His second coming, when the age of grace is ended, and the day of vengence (the Tribulation) begins so that God pours out His wrath on all who have rejected Christ.

Answer 11

Jesus will come again. Read the book of Revelation (the revelation of Jesus Christ). Read about the New Jerusalem.