If Jesus were truely God in the flesh, why would John deny this four verses after proclaiming in it in John 1:14? For John 1:18 says, "No one seen God at any time." Mind you, this quote is taken from every English Version that has been translated by non-other than trinitarians.
In truth, in Jewish culture, which was the same as John and the apostles, we teach that the God of Israel does in fact have a son, but that he is a made being. Thus, making it impossible for him to be eternal and "God in the Flesh." The truth is this, I will make it easy for the simple. If a bear will have a baby, thus being a cub, that cub cannot yet do what his parents can do while still being a young bear. Yet, in time he will do exactly what his parents can do, but this does not make him his parents. Similarly, a monkey cannot do what a bear can do and a monkey cannot do what a human can do. Thus, because the son of God is of the same specie as his Father, he to can create, but this does not make him God
2007-09-22 23:53:47 · 9 answers · asked by torah-man 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
it just makes him very powerful. For more info about this go to my website and read a several page article about this important topic at:
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2007-09-22 23:55:21 · update #1
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
You did not understand the verse. No man have seen God at anytime and it is only Jesus Christ, the begotten son who have seen God and because Jesus is not really man in flesh and He is also God, he have seen God the Father. It is very clear God the Father have declared God the Son who was in His bosom. OK? Red it very well and understand it. Read more.
During the creation Jesus Christ was already with God, the Father. Read it in Genesis
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Say the word "Let us" :our image" are plural which means there are two of them in the creation (God the Father and God, the Son)
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
In John Chapter 1 verses 1 to 5, it refers to Jesus Christ.
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2007-09-23 00:21:05 · answer #1 · answered by Jesus M 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Numbers states that God Himself stated he is not a Man nor the Son of Man. And if one actually reads the Old Test, Israel is considered God's Son as well.... so is King David. The "angels" in the story of the nephelim are all called Sons of God as well....
Wired, read Revelation again - it's a dream delivered by an angel. That is not Jesus speaking to someone. And for you to try to interpret a dream - um, isn't that New Age stuff?
Pagan
2007-09-23 01:36:34 · answer #2 · answered by River 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus is Eternal God by His Divine Nature,Essence,Substance,Being and Person but He is human by His human natureand being ,taken on Himself at His conception in time in the womb of the Virgin Mary.
We could see Jesus' humanity and image as could all who saw him 2000 years ago but no one can see or grasp His divinity which is infinite spirit and beyond your capacities to know in His essence as Diety
If God is not made flesh then we are still in our sins and the bridge between God and creation is not built and the infinite gap between God and mankind is victorious.
If Jesus is the same species as God then there is more than one god and mabe many of that divine race like the many gods of polytheism. Trinitarianism is monotheist and not polytheist ( with many gods).
Traditional (Non Christian) Judaism rejects God's having a Son by nature
2007-09-23 00:18:22 · answer #3 · answered by James O 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No man hath seen the Father. God is three in one. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Those of the time of Jesus have seen the Son of God they have not seen the Father. Jesus is God. Nothing is impossible for God. Our finite minds and imaginations cannot fathom the infinite mind of God so we put limits on Him trying to comprehend His mysteries.
2007-09-23 00:05:57 · answer #4 · answered by Nancy B 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Who does Christ refer to himself as in the revelation? The alpha and the omega, right? The very phrase "son of God" means "god in the flesh". Jesus Christ was very much God in the flesh. He wasn't an automaton hand-picked by God.
2007-09-23 00:04:49 · answer #5 · answered by Wired 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I won't waste time going to your website. Jesus is God, as is the Holy Spirit. You're spinning your wheels trying to disprove it.
2007-09-23 00:08:55 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
"for to us a child is born, to us a son is given.....and his name shall be called....Mighty God, Everlasting Father....."
The child Jesus was born as a human, but as the Son of God, He has been given to us, He always existed. Isaiah refers to Him as Mighty God, Everlasting Father.
2007-09-23 02:14:51 · answer #7 · answered by Renata 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If Jesus were god, then I suppose that means Jesus would also not exist. Sounds about right.
2007-09-23 00:05:10 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
So you people are telling me that you are worshipping a
man??
2007-09-23 00:19:41 · answer #9 · answered by Supernova 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋