A Muslim Call To The Israelis?

Question

Who else thinks that this is excellent, and much needed?

"Our heartfelt wish as Muslims is for the anger and hatred on both sides to die down, for the bloodshed to stop and for peace to come to the Middle East. We oppose both the Israeli killing of the innocent and the Palestinian bombing of innocent Israelis.

In our view, the most important condition for this blind conflict to come to an end and for real peace to be established in the Middle East is for both sides to genuinely and honestly understand and implement their own beliefs. The conflict between Israel and Palestine has taken on the identity of a 'religious war' between Jews and Muslims, whereas in fact there is absolutely no reason for such a war of religion. Both Jews and Muslims believe in God, love and respect the same prophets, and possess the same moral principles. They are not enemies."

http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com/israelis.html

Answer 1

Dear All

Let me place the following without any religious bias, based on the facts and history.

Does State of Israel existed officially before 1947?

While the Christians massaccred the Jews in many wars, they took refuge in Muslim Countries and living there even today like Iran has 2.5 Million Jews living peacefully, while President of Iran talks about wiping out State of Israel but not Jews right in his own country.

Palestinians are the most oppressed now like Jews themselves earlier, but they do not realize. While Jews have the backing of British, USA, France, Germany and others, Palestinians have no one to help them or take them.

Recently UN voted to apply the same rule to Israel they are applying to Iran on producing Atomic Energy, and all these states were absent in favour of Israel.

The Main event was the downfall of Ottoman Empire in World War II and the Muslim Lands were torn into pieces and given to Kings, Emirs, Sheikhs and Dictators as a gift to them as they supported British against Ottoman Empire and the British through Balfour Declaration created and set the boundaries of Israel in the heart of Arab Land, might be to monitor their subjects.

Palestinians were displaced for the Israelis to settle in there.
The Arab themselves did not support Palestinians and they even killed many of them when they migrated to their countries and they could not get along.

It is funny while Palestinians take the charity from USA and other Christian countries for their survival, how could they fight against them?

The talk of Humanity and United Nations is an eye wash, the Strong Nations are still ruling the World by their Veto Powers.

In the absence of Strong Muslim Representation and power, Palestinians should think of compromising by loosing some of their rights, so as to live peacefully with Israel, while there is no help from others too for them.

Even if that happens, I doubt Peace can prevail longer, as the Zionists have their expansion plans laid upon their four thousand old history to have most of the Arab Lands under them.

So, the Problem is not Judaism but it is Zionism, which few of the orthodox jews too agree.

So I am Looking upon God Allah for the solution of this problem of Palestinians.

May God Bless the Humanity for the peace to prevail in this world Amen.

Answer 2

You should read the whole article. The whole article is not addressed to both the Israelis and the Palestinians, its addressed to Israelis alone.
The article starts off by saying things such as " Israeli troops are employing the most ruthless and cruel methods against Palestinians." and "shooting at children and trying to make Palestine uninhabitable."
That is followed by "Some Palestinian radicals, on the other hand, are attacking Israeli civilian targets and spreading violence with their terrible suicide attacks aimed at women and children."
SOME Palestinian radicals??? I don't think the people behind this website are naive about the situation.
Thus, either they are engaging in cognitive dissonance or they are willfully lying.

Some notes about the "some Palestinian radicals". Fatah, the original "official representative of the Palestinian people" was and is a radical organization. Hamas, the current elected representatives of the Palestinian people, is a clear terrorist organization that has bombed innocent Israelis.

I would be more impressed if they wrote an article condemning Hamas, Fatah (and yes, they should NAME THEM) and other radical organizations how they are not following the dictates of their religion.

If you think I'm being too harsh... well, the charitable interpretation is that they are engaging in moral equivalence, something which, aside from not being true, will definitely not further peace.

For example: They identify it as a "religious war" between Jews and Muslims. Well, maybe some of the Muslims view it as such, but I would be interested in seeing them come up with a normative Jewish view that views the conflict as "religious".

For Imam Salim:

Have you noticed that the article is directly in disagreement with you? It claims the conflict is a "religious war" while you claim its "political in nature".
And both you and the person who wrote the article make the same mistake that many have made: Engaging in moral equivalence when there is non to be found.

As an aside:

The Wikipedia entry on the author (assuming its the same guy):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harun_Yahya

Answer 3

It does not ring true.

Furthermore, there is no war "between Israel and Palestine," because there is no place called Palestine.

If you believe what you hear on the news and media, you would think there is an entity called a Palestinian people, who lived in a country/state/area called Palestine since Canaanite/Biblical/Muslim times. The Israelis occupied Palestine in 1967. The Palestinians want the occupiers out of their land. And of course they are entitled to do whatever it takes to get their land back. No? No. Here are the facts.

Who are the Palestinians? Palestinians are Arabs. They have no historical, national or cultural identity distinct from other Arabs of the region. Most of them came into Palestine in search of economic opportunities after World War 1 when the British and the Jews began to build up a land that was moribund.

What is Palestine? When the Romans conquered Judea, they renamed it Palestine. Since then, no occupying power ever made it an independent state or established a capital in Jerusalem. Under the Ottoman Empire, it was part of the province of Syria.

After World War I, the area was mandated to Britain to establish a Jewish national home. Instead, in 1922, Britain split off 75% of Palestine to establish the Emirate of Transjordan, as a throne for the Arabian Hashemite family.

The UN decided to split the rest of Palestine between Jews and Arabs. In 1948, five Arab armies attacked the newborn State of Israel. Transjordan annexed the area intended for an Arab state, and renamed itself the Kingdom of Jordan, calling the annexed area the West Bank. Egypt took over Gaza. No Arab suggested making the West Bank and/or Gaza into yet another Arab state until 1967, when Israel was again attacked by the Arabs and took these areas.


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Answer 4

I read it. I find this part interesting:
2) East Jerusalem, which is home to the important temples of all three theistic religions must be administered by the Palestinian administration, yet this city should have an exclusive status. Jerusalem must be made a free city in which members of all three religions can carry out their obligations in peace.When these conditions are brought about, Israelis and Palestinians will have recognized each others' right to exist, shared the Palestinian lands, and resolved the status of Jerusalem, the subject of a great argument, in a manner satisfactory to the members of all three religions.

I respectfully disagree. The Muslim holy sites should be administered by the Waqf as they are currently, and the Jewish holy site should have Jewish administration. Jews have administered the holy places for decades, and Muslims and Christians still have access to them. As soon as the Palestinians regained control over the tomb of Joseph, they destroyed it. The Palestinians cannot be trusted with the Western Wall. Sovereignty must be shared to ensure continuing access to everyone. Had Israel acted as the Muslims acted with respect to non-Muslim holy cites and cemeteries, the Haram al Sharif would have been leveled as soon as Jordan was driven out. Remember this.

Further, I note that the message says "all territories since 1967." If this includes only Palestinian territory, I think that should be fine by and large (something like 90%). But if it also includes Golan then I think the answer will be no. Syria gave up both the moral and literal high ground when it used the Golan as a staging area to attack the kibbutzim in Northern Israel. For Syria to now play innocent is laughable. Syria took a gamble that it would be able to wipe out Israel completely, and lost that gamble. It should be grateful that Israel didn't destroy Damascus when it had the chance, but instead it bickers over some vineyards, a mere bloody nose. Absolutely pathetic.

Answer 5

The Six Day conflict grew to become into in 1967, you're questioning of the 1948 conflict. And sure, the nicely-known version is greater propaganda than certainty. collectively as the Arab governments engaged interior the worst varieties of threats and sabre damn, they actually gave the Palestinians little or no by utilising way of economic and defense force help, and the thought Arab armies poured into Palestine topersistent Israel into the sea is organic unadulterated BS. The Israelis did in actuality have have the stronger forces in 1948 and the effect of the conflict grew to become into in no way particularly uncertain, it grew to become into Israel that captured the lion's share of Palestine, no longer the Palestinians.

Answer 6

As a person who speaks regularly to interfaith gatherings, services and conferences both in the US and abroad I can tell you that my impression is that people of faith usually can agree on many points and are willing, as individuals, to be very tolerant and even embracing of others' beliefs.

This has convinced me that most of what we see going on in the Middle East is of a political nature and is fueled by extremists on both sides whose agenda goes far beyond the present conflict and only serves to shore up their own power structure. The conflict is not between Jews and Muslims at all, the conflict is between two political rivals who will not back down, and who have convinced many people to follow by convincing them that the "other" people hate them and want them eliminated.

My experience is that this is simply not true, as I said above. Both Israelis and Palestinians need to start to reject this idea that the "other" hates them and start telling their leaders that they are not afraid of them and to start working on ending the conflict or they will find themselves without a job. Since what the leaders really want is simply to hold on to the power they have, then you have to convince them that the only way you will let them keep that power is for them to establish peace.

Peace and Blessings,

Imam Salim

Answer 7

Thank you for posting this.

I agree; we Jews and Muslims are brother religions! We have much in common and it is tragic in the extreme, when we fight and kill one another.

Both Jews and Palestinians must have their own state, and both must be safe and secure.

For this to happen, both sides will, I believe, have to make massive concessions. It won't be easy, but it is possible.

Firstly and crucially, we must stop demonizing one another, which is what tends to happen.

Most people are decent, and long for peace. If we can only silence the extremists on both 'sides', then we will have a chance.

Shalom, and Salam.

EDIT: ADAM B makes some excellent points; I don't know why he's been given so many thumbs-down because he is merely stating facts; objective, historical, verifiable facts.

Answer 8

The situation in Isreal/Palastine is horrific. Nobody wants to budge an inch...The ideal solution would be for the isreal army to calm down and stop killing civilians but the same thing can be said about the palestinian terrorists...it's a very difficult situation, 50 years of killing can't be forgotten overnight, the children who grow up in those two countries have to grow up with the history of what the adults have been doing to each other...
EDIT
I know a lot of people won't like this but I think the Isrealis are in the wrong - you can't just drop into someone elses country and say god has promised this land to you - thats bs, he doesn't exist!

Answer 9

Anything is possible but I can't see how; for you to declare peace you would have to abandon the tenets of Islam.That is not going to happen.When the day finally arrives,we will know it because people will be able to publish cartoons and speak freely and Yahoo Answers will be available in Muslim countries.I don't mean to be rude; just realistic.

Answer 10

Ok,as a muslim I will help the palestanian. Ok here goes,Oh people of israel hear me says this,By the power invested in me , I hereby command you to stop this war with the palestinians at once if not,I,myself and me (three of us ) will whacked you so stop at once now!!! or else suffer the consequences.Ok,muslim people,I have told them to stop,we will wait for three days and see what happens next.