are you so immoral?

Question

are you so immoral that you need a 2000 year old book to tell you that murder is wrong?

fruitcake, and that fact that there is a bible to remind them didn't seem to stop them. good argument... NOT!!!

Answer 1

Not only that, they need the threat of hell hanging over them to behave themselves a bit like civilised people.
Weird people, huh?

Answer 2

I find it peculiar when believers speak about how our morality is founded in the Bible, when a cursory examination of this “holy book” reveals that it sanctions a whole host of things that we would consider to be egregious violations of our own moral code and ethical sensibilities.

The truth is that even the most ardent biblical literalist cannot take the Bible at face value; for if they did, they would have to profess that slavery is a divinely established institution, killing disobedient children is righteous, that executing fornicators (the vast majority of westerns) is commendable, that genocide in order to preserve ones supposedly divine mandate to a piece of real estate is the hallmark of spiritual fidelity, that women are second class citizens to men especially with respect to the worth of their testimony and capacity as religious teachers, that abandoning ones family and responsibility to others to spread a religious message is the highest virtue, etc.

I can go on and on enumerating the various “sins” of scripture, and the deplorable things that it enjoins the believer to carry out. The truth is the so called biblical literalist must cherry pick what he believes in and what he chooses to discard with in his holy books, and the faculty that he uses to arbitrate between what he will follow and what he won’t is his own moral intuitions, which are the byproduct of his maturing in a modern world.

The priest, preacher, and rabbi of 1000 years ago would gladly admonish followers to do things, with scriptural justification, that no contemporary priest, preacher, or rabbi would contemplate. Yet both the modern religious clerics, and those living a thousand years ago are reading the same holy book. This fact alone goes a long way to proving that our basic morality is neither derived by our religious literature, nor are they or should they be guided by them. Morality evolves and changes overtime. It is not immutable, and that is a good thing.

Answer 3

I repeat.. morality is a choice. i know atheists who are moral by choice and believers who are immoral by choice. its all about how i feel about the choices i have made.
and that's a rather small view of things. its not just the Christians with their 2,000 year old book.... what about the Vedas? that's way older. and morals and values existed before people could write it down.
why not write it down.. along with the other 9 you forgot to mention.
the Bible.. actuallyTorah is where that bit is from (so now i'm not sure who you are picking on here) is intended to be full instructions for how to lead one's life. same for the muslims and their 1600 year old book.

Answer 4

No, nor do I think anyone else is. But it is a little frightening to think about how many people are being raised to believe that the reason they behave well is fear of punishment and maybe to some extent hope of reward. They do not develop the slightest understanding of ethical analysis, and if they should fall out of favor with the religion that taught them about heaven and hell, they may be completely lacking in moral judgment.

Of course, IMO, they are already completely lacking in moral judgment.

Answer 5

From the number of people all over the world in prison for murder, including past and present dictators, a lot of people need to be reminded.


Sending you a smile to help pick up your day.

Answer 6

There are those it seems that need reminding everyday. It also tells you how to live in a secular sense and nonsecular sense. Read the book of Ecclesiastes it's great,,, ciao

Answer 7

Thank you!

When Christians ask me how anyone can be moral without the Bible, it makes me seriously question their grasp on morality.

Answer 8

Actually, the "murder is bad" part came from the 2nd century BC, so it is about 4000 years old... It just makes your sarcasm that much funnier... :-) Then new testament book doesn't have such rules. Instead it indifferently says to turn ones cheek.

Answer 9

man kinds biggest blunder has been trying to define right and wrong. you cant ask the fish what the water means to it

Answer 10

Of course not, I role with a 4000 year old one. Old Testament style.