I found a lot that is 22x650', a little over 3.1 acres. It is in the middle of nowhere, no electricity, no water, etc. It will be a "members only" range for smaller weapons like .22 LR, air guns, .410 or 28 gauge shotguns, maybe .22 WMR's. The back 75' of the land rises about 12'. The land on either side is not as flat and not a great building site. The chances of finding neighbors building anytime soon is slim. Way beyond the back side is a home, about 1/2 mile away. Their property line reaches this property line, but its all brush and woods, as well as the other side of the hill. This is a rough idea of what it would lay out like...
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Does this seem do-able? This land has an asking price of $24,999.
2007-09-22 17:59:15 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Outdoor Recreation ➔ Hunting
225x650' not 22'...
2007-09-22 18:22:03 · update #1
I think the land is too skinny for a commercial enterprise or even a club. If it is just you and your buddies put up a backstop and go crazy.
Ya gotta have burms on the rifle range. Not a debate. No Burms no range. The thing that bothers me about the skeet range is the sides. When I shoot skeet I don't shoot down range I shoot to the side. Burms won't work for skeet because you shoot up with skeet. The range on shotguns is not that far. I am just not sure how far it is.
Strangely I think you might be better off just putting up burms and having a pistol and rifle range.
The best place to get insurance is through the NRA. They have/had a requirement about a certain percentage of members being in the NRA.
I wish you the best of luck. The nice thing about a range is that the worst land (shy of toxic dumps) makes the best range. The bad thing is all the legal issues. If your area needs a range but the land is wrong keep on looking. I was loo
2007-09-22 20:42:52 · answer #1 · answered by uncle frosty 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The .22 WMR is a lot more powerful than a .22 LR. I grew up in Rhodesia, Africa. In the 1960's there were some problems, but I was too young to remember. By 1968-69, things had improved for a few years. By about 1974, more problems with marxist black insurgents coming over the border. We had a 30 acre farm. My father was a mechanic and my mother was a stay at home mom. By 1974, we hired an ex-army corporal (mulatto) and his seven black soldiers to protect our property. They were protecting others in the area as well. They had three Enfield rifles. One for the corporal, two for the pair that was on patrol at that time. They lived in a small house near our property.
They got into a fire fight with some insurgents. I remember one soldier was wounded, but not seriously, but there were two dead insurgents. The rest got away. One rifle was recovered, a soviet sks carbine. The other insurgent's weapon got away...
At this point my father decided to buy a gun for our protection. It was a .22 WMR I'm pretty sure it was a Marlin.
Buying the gun may have been a problem. It was 1976 and we had another fire fight in our area. I saw my father kill a man 150' away with this .22 magnum. About 2 minutes later, my father was seriously injured by another insurgent. By the army and police arrived, there were perhaps 10 dead and 15 wounded between both sides. When my father recovered, we sold the land for a very small amount and moved to New Zealand. I later moved to America.
The .22 LR is definitely lethal at close and medium range. The .22 WMR still has the velocity of .22 LR at the muzzle, when it is 150 yds away from the muzzle. That's a lot more powerful. I'd seriously reconsider firing a .22 WMR in such a small place.
2007-09-23 05:58:34 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
An acre is not enough. A square plot of land one acre in size is about 208 ft x 208 ft - no where near the 500 foot separation needed. Even if you got a narrow strip of land with the long side 500ft, you will not have a 500 foot distance on the flanks. If you are out in the middle of nowhere with no neighbors, that would not be a problem. But otherwise you will need at least 23 acres of land assuming a square plot and you set up the range in the middle. I don't know what the price of land out in PA, but I'm pretty sure it will be pricey.
2016-05-21 04:22:09 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No way.
Too close.
Even a .22 LR will still seriously wound or kill at over a mile. And .22 bullets are some of the most ricochet prone bullets there is. You could open it up for a trap shooting range only. But not for any rifles.
Sarge
2007-09-25 11:17:40 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well I can't comment on the price because I do not know the location. As far as the size needed, it would depend on if there is a clubhouse or not, a store, a snack bar...etc. If just looking for a shooting range bare minimum, yes it is plenty. As long as you have 500 x 18, it should be enough. Good luck, hope it works out.
2007-09-22 18:21:30 · answer #5 · answered by blewjaye 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
And what if the dude in the other house happens to like woods, and you aim your gun a little too high, and he's on the ridge one day and you shoot him?
At least talk to the guy first. And bullets can ricochet even off a tree branch, and travel pretty far. Best is to check ballistics tables for all the rounds and have nothing inside or near the longest range.
2007-09-22 18:20:56 · answer #6 · answered by anonymous 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
As long as you have good high berms, and limit things to small bore rifle, and pistols, and skeet, I think you'd be OK.
BTW, I don't think 12 gauge small shot will be any more dangerous to the neighbors than .410 and 28 gauge shot. The thing you will have to drive home is to watch the muzzle, and don't shoot high.
Doc
2007-09-22 21:07:13 · answer #7 · answered by Doc Hudson 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋