Gun Control in England? 19 children killed by guns there and 5285 kids killed in U.S. same year. If gun crimes

Question

have increased in England as some fanatics like to claim, their kids still have a much better chance of surviving there, don't you think?

There is almost no gun crime in Tokyo where they have 6 million people and strong Gun Control Laws. Gun Control obviously works provided you ENFORCE it! Or don't you trust your government to enforce it? Now that's another story.

But a country with strong gun control laws ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY is obviously safer for your kids as England and Tokyo prove. Likewise, Australia where kids are much safer than here, even if there are a few more gun crimes during the first years of new gun control laws.

Answer 1

You know, America is a very weird conuntry when it comes to this and I do agree, living in parts of America can be dangerous. I am very patriotic, but yes I still wonder if America is putting freedom over safety. I mean why would they still let all these people die. Also, you have to have a permit to have a gun here, but stil in the United States guns are alot easier to access. People can just grab them. If America allows people to have guns they should keep them under more careful watch. You make a very strong point. People rave on about the U.S being the land of the free, but that comes at a cost. I think Tokyo and Australia would agree with both of us.

Awesome question/statement by the way.

Answer 2

I think if you were to spend some time actually looking at statistics and researching these things you'd see that poverty levels and the number of people per square mile tend to cause more crime than guns. I think the answer to America's problem of violence is education, not gun control. I'd rather not live in a totalitarian state. I think you and all your like minded friends ought to watch the movie "V for Vendetta". Its the perfect example of why you shouldn't trade your freedoms for safety in the face of danger.

Benjamin Franklin said: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

I hope you take the time to read this quote and think about what all it might mean. The reason we have guns is to discourage and possibly fight if neccesary, a tyrannical government. If it ever comes to this then I think you will be found woefully underprepared if not willing to submit to whatever America's government could become. If it ever comes to that then I and your more responsible fellow citizens will be prepared to deal with it and perhaps you will see the error of your ways.

Answer 3

I am sorry JiveMan, but you are mistaken in your logic.

You say, "If gun crimes have increased in England as some fanatics like to claim, their kids still have a much better chance of surviving there, don't you think?"

No. When 19 children in England die due to gun shots, it only shows us that when guns are illegal, criminals, who want them, will still find a way to get them. This puts you and your children at a severe disadvantage when attacked. How are you going to fight off the attacker with the gun? Are you going to pull out your trusty hunting knife and deflect the bullets? In 90% of incidents, police show up after the crime has been committed. You cannot rely on them to make sure your family is protected. Your children are more likely to be killed in these instances, because whoever is watching over them, are usually unable to protect the child with equal force. When you make guns illegal, criminals will move to more easily obtainable weapons. If you really want to compare death rates, you have to look at total child deaths by violent crime. This will include all the deaths of children who have been beaten and stabbed as well as shot. This is where the truth plays out. Statistics show, that in areas where guns are illegal, death rates by violent crime rise significantly. This means you have MORE people dying, just not by guns. Get it? Stop trying to twist statistics to suit what you want to point out. Have you heard the saying, Guns don't kill people, people kill people? It is as true today, as it was one hundred years ago. People need to get over their fear of guns. They are a tool and nothing else. They don't have a soul and they are not inherently evil. Owning one, will not cause you to become a killer.

I have to ask you, why do you feel the government has a right to make guns illegal? Who is the government, to say how I can or cannot protect my family? As a father and protector of my family, isn't it my duty to use every advantage possible when defending them? You see, this is the difference between America and places like England, Tokyo and Australia. In America, government is under the control of the people. In those other places, the people are under the control of a government. Guns or the lack of them are what keep it this way. Say you live in one of these places where guns are illegal. What are you going to do, if it becomes corrupt? I think we can all agree that power corrupts, we see it all the time. In America we will take our guns and fight to keep our freedom. In those other countries, the citizens will lie down like sheep and do what the government tells them. They will have no way to defend their freedom. You may think this will never happen, I will not take that chance. Regardless of what you and people like you think, you will only take my guns when you pry them from my cold dead fingers!

Answer 4

Better check your facts more closely.

While Japan has a lower gun-murder rate, it's overall murder rate is nearly equal to the US. Your kids aren't safer from violence in Tokyo, just safer from gun violence. The same conditions are true in such countries as Sweden, Canada, France, Austria, and Germany, all of which have remarkably low gun-related murders but have overall murder rates comparable or greater than the US.

Your conclusion was reached by quoting only gun-related crime statistics, and ignoring non-gun related stats. And you conveniently ignored countries with high gun ownership and low murder rates.

The Swiss allow fully automatic weapons, and nearly equal the US in gun ownership per capita, and have a gun murder rate 1/5th of the US, but an overall murder rate that's higher.

Northern Ireland, which has 1/5th the per capita ownership as the US, has an gun murder rate rqual to the US.

For these reasons and others, study after study has shown no correlation to overall murder rates to gun ownership.

Answer 5

I agree with you that strict gun laws will almost always reduce gun crime, but there's a bit of an embarrasing exception here. Switzerland has very lax gun control laws, but almost no gun crime.

Anyway, why's this in R&S?

Answer 6

that's what did no longer seem on your NRA propaganda equipment stable regulation abiding electorate immediately shoot and kill different stable regulation abiding electorate Police historic past is crammed with comments of regulation abiding husbands taking pictures and killing their the two regulation abiding better halves and then crying like toddlers over the reality that their gun allowed all of it to get way too deadly way too quickly.

Answer 7

was there a question in there someplace?

look at the number...ve.s population...England?...tokoy?...aussie?....all VERY small in numbers to the US....your not thinking clearly

add this in 2 out of ever 3 homes in the US have a gun of some sort...again...how many homes in england have guns?

bet if ya take the time to crunch ALL the numbers and not just the ones you like....you'll find very little difference

Answer 8

Get off the soap box about the Second Admendment. Parental control from a very early age is the answer. People like you want everyone else to lose their basic rights because you enjoy having children but can't handle the responsibilities. You want to have our government to raise your children. No thanks.

Answer 9

Won't you ever go away? You are about the most ignorant dolt I have ever seen. Why don't you find a nice dark hole to crawl into and make life a little more pleasant for others?

P. S. Let's see anyone try and take our guns away. Please note the plural on guns.

Answer 10

The prolem with gun control is the bad one,s would still get them and we would have no defence against them.