Is I.D. taking the same path as the "Big Bang" theory?

Question

When the "Big Bang" theory was first introduced, MOST scientists rejected it because it had religious IMPLICATIONS. The "Big Bang" theory itself was not religious. Is this the same path that Intelligent Design is taking? It has religious IMPLICATIONS but I.D. itself is not religious.

Who says I.D. is not scientific? Some scientists. But then you have a bunch of other authentic scientists who say that it is !!!

And why do people equate I.D. with creationism? They are not the same.

Oh yes, there are peer-reviews on I.D. in scientific magazines. You need to survey the total literature, not just the ones that you are in favor of.

Answer 1

Of course the answers you'll get here aren't peer reviewed. And the anonymous answerers don't need to establish their credentials for making their bland assertions about any facet of the question.

So I suppose it all balances out in a rhetorical blind leading the blind.

Answer 2

1. Cosmic Evolution. First of all, I don't even really like calling it "cosmic evolution" because the word "evolution" in science is almost always meant to mean biological evolution. The Darwinian sense of the word. So I call I just call it development or something to avoid confusion (or open the door to creationists) with the biological concept. The most basic way to explain it would be to say that our universe began in a hot, dense, infinitely small state and then expanded and cooled from there. The thing is, it's still expanding. We've measured it we know it's expanding and how much. The big bang never ended. The really weird part is the expansion isn't slowing down, it's speeding up, and we don't know why. 2. Does the big bang theory suggest that humans evolved out of sludge. No and neither does evolution. That "goo to you via the zoo" bollocks is typical creationist straw manning. Evolution is 1. nothing to do with cosmology and 2. a verifiable fact. If you want to know more about evolution email me I can prove that evolution is a fact and that everything you have been told about it by church leaders is a lie. We did evolve although the actual picture is more complicated than you've been led to believe. 3. Is the big bang a simple way of saying God created? Eh, no. First of all actually understanding the big bang would require several years of university level education in physics. I know because I did study physics at university and the big bang (or as it's more properly known in it's modern form "inflation") is unbelievably complicated. The mathematical intricacies involved really prevent me from discussing it in proper technical detail I wouldn't even know where to begin. Saying "God did it" is the cop out answer. 4. Is the big bang in conflict with Genesis? Yes, all of reality is. The world did not begin in a garden with two naked people and a talking snake. It wasn't created in 6 days and even if they aren't literal "days" it's still in the wrong order. In fact, the creation story appears twice in Genesis and it's different each time. The bible even contradicts ITSELF here. 5. Do Christians have a strange concept about the big bang? Yes. And evolution. And most of science in general. To be fair, most people do. Most people do not know what science is, how it works, what it can and cannot do, what facts and theories are or even why we do science in the first place.

Answer 3

There isn't a single peer reviewed paper in favor of it. It isn't even on science's distant horizon. They are working with M Theory now, and that still includes the Big Bang.

Answer 4

I.D isn't scientific because it makes no testable predictions. The few assertions Behe made about biological systems have been disproven. Further, it died in the courts, since none of its proponents could show it was scientific.

Answer 5

Saying that an intelligent designer (God) created the universe and everything in it isn't religious?
How exactly is that?
Please give one shred of evidence or scientific theory that backs up the claim of intelligent design.

Answer 6

....not quite the same since "intelligent design" means a designer, which is a religious concept.

The big bang, as you said, isn't religious (but possibly with religious implications). That being said, you're comparing apples with oranges.

Answer 7

frankly i cant see what the opposite, i.e. "unintelligent design" would be. isnt the only interesting point whether, if indeed a "design", is it PURPOSEFUL?

Answer 8

ID isn't scientific.

Answer 9

does it make any testable predictions?