how much is the going rate for letting your pedigree dog out to stud?

Question

He's still only a baby but there is interest in using him for breeding (he's a minature schnauzer if that makes a difference, with a pedigree as long as your arm!) but we don't know how much to charge.

Answer 1

You should NOT breed the dog unless you also are willing to test for all the things the Min. Schnauzers are prone to....

minimum is
OFA: knees
BAER: ears
CERF: eyes
http://www.mscc.ca/health.html
http://amsc.us/health.html
http://members.aol.com/tcmsc/buying.html
http://www.simplyschnauzer.net/SSHNindex.html

Otherwise you are playing with fire.....the female's owner can be sued and you could be liable as well if the puppies end up with ANY genetic issues up to adult age !!!

Just looking healthy and having your regular vet give shots does NOT clear a dog as a breeding animal.

I'd say find out how many Min. Schnauzers are in your local Rescues first and then decide if you really need to breed your particular pet.

Stud dogs also make lousy pets !

A pedigree is just a family tree....it means NOTHING. Your dog has to prove himself on his own merits. Put some titles on him if he's so amazing. All Champions in a pedigree can still throw some non-breeding quality animals.

If you dog was bought as a show/breeding quality animal you would have had to sign contracts if you got him from a good breeder. Normally you'd have to finish his championship before they'd allow you to breed him.

Answer 2

it depends on whether he is a good show dog or not..or has any qualifications of any sort. I wouldn't use a stud dog without any qualifications like a best in breed or show etc...or if there were no c working or show champions in the bloodline. Just because you have a long pedigree..doesn't mean it is good. Get a good look at it...make sure there are no dogs used repetitively, there are a few champions and then he may be worth using.

A good quality show dog with a title to his name can charge up to £800...one thats not done any showing i would expect to pay £250 tops. So work with that. I hope he is a good specimen of the breed and of sound temperament

Answer 3

If you are still considering putting him out to stud, why do you want to do this? Do you think he has some great genes to offer the breed? I'm not trying to be mean and maybe he does, but there are thousands of Miniature Schnauzers out there, all of which make great pets. But only a fraction of them are "superior" genetically and should be passing their genes along to the next generation.

All purebreds have a "pedigree as long as your arm." It just depends how many generations the breeder chooses to put on it. A 7-generation pedigree will be longer than a 3-generation pedigree, but the dog with a 3-generation pedigree has more than seven ancestors and a 7-generation pedigree COULD be printed for him.

Here are some articles about diseases that commonly affect Schnauzers. All Schnauzers bred by responsible breeders are tested for these before being bred. These diseases are often recessive, so the dog doesn't show signs of it but still passes them on to his puppies: http://amsc.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=4&id=15&Itemid=27

Also, have you proven (amongst competition) that your dog excels as a Miniature Schnauzer? (Of course he excels as a dog!) That is, have you taken him to dog shows where he's won over competition, showing that he's a superior example of how a Schnauzer should look? Or have you taken him to earthdog trials and proven that he knows how to do the work his breed is bred to do?

Good luck!

Answer 4

Stud Dog owners usually charge the same amount as Breeders charge for the puppies, depending on the breed.

The going rate for Stud Dogs for Goldens is anything from between £500 and £650 but I'm afraid I don't know what miniature schnauzer breeds charge - probably about the same I should think.

Have a look at Champdogs UK. There is a list of breeders there and you can have a look through the Schnauzer Breeder
websites to give you an idea.

Answer 5

To get your dog ready to be a stud it costs hundreds of dollars easily.

In order to have a stud that people want to spend money to use you will need to:
** show him and finish his championship--if he is a GREAT dog you may only need to go to 8-10 shows. (You need 15 points and at least 3 major shows ) Each show will cost about $30 a piece to enter, plus gas, etc. so that's $300 right there.

**get him tested for any health problems specific to his breed-- look up info on CJC, PRA, and hypothyroidism in partcular. So that's a few more bucks.

A CGC can't hurt and it doesn't cost much to earn this title.

Once he's got a CH, consider a performance title or obedience title to make him a more attactive stud.

People who will pay good money for a stud are going to want to see all of these things....would you pay the same amount for a 1980 Civic as you would for a 2008 Cadillac Escalade? Nope, and people who will spend a few hundred dollars on a stud are NOT going to do it with one that is unproven and untitled.

A pedigree is just a family tree---all purebred dogs have them. Even if all the dogs on it have titles, until your dog has one it means very little other than he might have the potential to be a champion.

Enjoy your pup!

Answer 6

All dogs have pedigrees as long as your arm - even crossbreeds!
What he's worth at stud depends on how good an example of the breed he is - and whether he passes all the necessary health checks. Reputable breeders will only be interested in using him if he is an outstanding example of the breed with an exemplary temperament. Otherwise, why would they use him and not a proven successful dog?
Presumably, you wouldn't want a careless breeder using him - and his puppies ending up homeless or in bad homes?
Before ever offering him at stud he will need a current clear eye certificate showing that he is free of hereditary cataract and Progressive Retinal Atrophy. These tests need to be done annually. Ideally, his parents, grandparents & siblings should also have been shown to be clear of these diseases too.
http://www.schnauzerclub.co.uk/health.shtml
http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/topic/55104.html

Answer 7

All purebred dogs have "pedigrees as long as your arm", but that doesn't mean they are worthy of being bred.
1) he needs to be at least 2 years old
2) he needs to have had & passed genetic health testing, not just simple vet exams
3) he needs to have been shown and pointed/championed or at the least evaluated by at least 3 unbiased, breed knowledgable people/judges
4) he needs an impeccible pedigree, not just a long one
5) he should have his AKC CGC award
6) he needs to be registered with a legit registry..AKC, UKC (United Kennel Club) or CKC (Canadian Kennel Club) and not one of the many scam registries
7) you as owner need to get involved with your breeds clubs/organizations and meet other responsible, respectible, knowledgable people of the breed

If you do all of the above you will then be ready to think about the possability of him being a stud and your mentor (the one you meet from shows, clubs, etc) will help you decide on a fair & appropriate stud fee...fees are based on breed type, championships, pedigree.

Answer 8

Is the amount of money more important than the lives of all the mini schnauzer's in shelters waiting for homes?

If his pedigree is that good get him into conformation as soon as he's old enough. If he does well at 2 start the genetic testing. Just because his background has great genes does not mean 100% that he will. If everything is still well. the cost of stud is the price that one pup would sell for or pick of the litter.

I really would be thinking more of those little guys who may die though before you breed him. Unless he is one of the very best please have him neutered.

Answer 9

Try him out in conformation to see whether he's of breeding quality first. If he isn't, don't breed from him at all.

The link below gives an easy to follow method of assessing whether or not your dog is of breeding quality:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/skatekitten2288/Petneuter.jpg

In the meantime, learn as much as you can about breeding. Speak to experienced breeders within the breed clubs.

http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/167

Click on the link above - you'll have to scroll down for contact details of the breed clubs.

Read this too:

http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/topic/55104.html

Until your dog is at least 2 years old, the various genetic tests cannot be carried out on your dog. Good job really, there's a lot to learn!

I've starred this question in the hope that an experienced (responsible) breeder will spot it and be able to give more help (look out for Jennifer T, Goldengal, DP and others).

Good luck.

Answer 10

All purebred dogs have a pedigree as long as your arm. It means nothing as far as breeding quality. Your dog may have several champions in his family tree, doesn't make him a champion, and doesn't make him breeding quality either.

Unless you are willing to prove your dog is breeding quality by doing the following:

Earn points toward a championship by showing him, this proves he fits the breed standard.

You need to have him tested for all genetic defects known to the breed. If he doesn't pass the health testing he isn't breed quality.



If you aren't willing to do that, get him neutered.