Christians: Did God create Jesus Christ?

Question

Please answer in context of trinitarianism belief. The more I understand about the doctrine of the trinity the more it looks like it can not be a monotheistic belief. It sound so weird, so made up. God wouldn't really come up with such an idea...would He??

I am sorry , this does not sound like monotheism. I try to picture this in my head and it just makes no sense.

Again, its just too confusing but I thought of something else: Why did Jesus pray to God???? Why did God pray to God????

Answer 1

Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. Fully God and Fully man.
God created the human part of Jesus, and dwelt in that flesh in which he created.

Remember Jesus Christ was 100% God and 100% man, I know, it is not logical to the natural mind, that is another mystery. That doctrine is called,"Hypostatic Union", though I don't like the word doctrine, being that it sounds like man's wisdom. But, God came in the flesh as a man to set an example of how we should live, it was the man part that was praying to God.

Hey Jonny, I am not trying to preach or convert you, trust me I don't push anything on anyone, I very much dislike that. But, you asked, if you are sincere in your inquiry about the nature of Christ and why he did the things he did check out this website, I think it will shed some light on some things for you, peace.

http://www.carm.org/doctrine/2natures.htm

Answer 2

Jesus, in the spiritual sense, IS God. However ... Jesus in the physical sense was created by God, as God creates all life.

In Heaven the Father, Christ, and the Holy Spirit all exist simultaneously as one. When the physical Jesus was born, God created him with the spirit of himself, the aspect of God that we know as Christ. This is how Jesus is both God and the son of God, as Jesus had no earthly father, only the Heavenly one.

Although Jesus was divine in the physical sense, he was still surrounded by a fallen world rampant with sin, and had to pray to maintain closeness with the Father and stay obedient. Jesus also came, not only to sacrifice himself, but to show us an example of how we should live. Therefore he practiced obedience in all things, including prayer and baptism.

Answer 3

The Bible says so. The problem with this is that the Holy Scriptures (The Books) were ALL written by man.
Most, were written in a METAPHORICAL CONTEXT, except where history is concerned.
Yes, confusing, and yet well worth pondering, as is The Dead Sea Scrolls, The Sepheryetzira, The Kaabala, The Koran and other 'Mystical' literature.
There is wisdom in all to those who seek it.
Even if we don`t fully comprehend the full meaning, I think most people extract some useful philosophy to apply in their own lives
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Answer 4

The trinity is three persons one God. Its something that as humans is to complex to picture because theres nothing else around like it but just b/c we might not fully understand things doesn't make them lies. God is a monotheistic belief.

Answer 5

proceed analyzing till you get to Revelation 3:14 the place Jesus is named the "commencing up of the creation with the aid of God." and actually Revelation a million:8 is relating the ALMIGHTY GOD - not Jesus. Jesus is in no way called the ALMIGHTY in the scriptures. The Alpha and Omega reference is that the Almighty God determines the commencing up and end of each thing.

Answer 6

Jesus is God's only begotten (or created) son (John 3:16).

The concept you discuss is indeed confusing in the contest of the totality of Christ's words in the Gospels

"I don't do anything of my own initiative" (John 8:28)
"I do the will of him that SENT me"
"the Father is greater than I am" (John 14:28)
"I am going my way TO the Father"

Couple that with what Paul says at Hebrews 10:12 ... But this [man] offered one sacrifice for sins perpetually and sat down AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD.

And as far at your logical question about Jesus praying to himself, here's another one. If Jesus was God, and God was dead for three days, who was in charge of the Universe and who resurrected him back to heavenly life?

Answer 7

Just like parts of the body. You have hands, feet, arms, legs, eyes. All parts to make a whole.

You have God - the soul.
Jesus, the face of God
Holy spirit is the voice of God.

All parts of the same whole being. God the Father.


They have always been together.

Peace & God bless from Lonestar Prayer Warrior. <><

Answer 8

Jesus is the first born of all creation. in Genesis mad man in our image. Jesus said many time God was his father. Jesus sits at Gods right hand. also read colossians 1 the whole thing should help.

Answer 9

No, because Jesus IS God, therefore he always existed. The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God (cf. John 8:58, 10:38, 14:10; Col. 2:9). It also clearly teaches that the Holy Spirit is God (cf. Acts 5:3–4, 28:25–28; 1 Cor. 2:10–13). Everyone agrees the Father is God. Yet there is only one God (Mark 12:29, 1 Cor. 8:4–6, Jas. 2:19). How can we hold all four truths except to say all three are One God? This is the Trinity.

And yes, Jesus DID say he was God. In John 8:58, when quizzed about how he has special knowledge of Abraham, Jesus replies, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am"—invoking and applying to himself the personal name of God—"I Am" (Ex. 3:14). His audience understood exactly what he was claiming about himself. "So they took up stones to throw at him; but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple" (John 8:59).

In John 20:28, Thomas falls at Jesus’ feet, exclaiming, "My Lord and my God!" (Greek: Ho Kurios mou kai ho Theos mou—literally, "The Lord of me and the God of me!")

Philippians 2:6 says that Jesus "who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped" (New International Version). So Jesus chose to be born in humble, human form though he could have simply remained in equal glory with the Father for he was "in very nature God."

Also significant are passages that apply the title "the First and the Last" to Jesus (Rev. 1:17). This is one of the Old Testament titles of Yahweh: "Thus says Yahweh, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, Yahweh of armies: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; besides me there is no god’" (Is. 44:6; cf. 41:4, 48:12).

But did the early Christians believe Jesus was God? YES! Here are some quotes:

Ignatius of Antioch: "Ignatius, also called Theophorus, to the Church at Ephesus in Asia . . . predestined from eternity for a glory that is lasting and unchanging, united and chosen through true suffering by the will of the Father in Jesus Christ our God" (Letter to the Ephesians 1 [A.D. 110]).

Aristides: "[Christians] are they who, above every people of the earth, have found the truth, for they acknowledge God, the Creator and maker of all things, in the only-begotten Son and in the Holy Spirit" (Apology 16 [A.D. 140]).

Clement of Alexandria: "The Word, then, the Christ, is the cause both of our ancient beginning—for he was in God—and of our well-being. And now this same Word has appeared as man. He alone is both God and man, and the source of all our good things" (Exhortation to the Greeks 1:7:1 [A.D. 190]).

Answer 10

Jesus Christ, or Jehovah, is the first spiritual born of God the Father. He is also the only Begotten in the flesh of the Father. For untold eons, Jehovah was groomed for His rightful place in the Godhead by the Father and subsequently became the Creator of worlds without number, which include this earth.