Do you believe the global warming scare stories?

Question

C02 makes up 0.04 % of the greenhouse gases, increases in temperature increase C02 not the other way round.

Nobody ever mentions Water vapour, quote from Wikipedia "Water vapor is a larger contributor to the greenhouse effect that CO2"

Greens always say that the temperature of the earth has increased by 1 degree fahrenheit over the last 100 years but they dont mention when the intial reading was done (1880) it was colder than average.

According to the Greens, during the post-war boom global warming should have pushed temperatures up. But the opposite happened. "As a matter of the fact, the decrease in temperature, which was very noticeable in the 60s and 70s led many people to fear that we would be going into another ice age,"

Quote from a website "Even in recent times, the temperature has not behaved as it should according to global warming theory. Over the last eight years, temperature in the southern hemisphere has actually been falling"

Still believe it?

to felix theres no way your temperature reached 131F the hottest ever temperature recorded was 135F in a desert, you got your facts wrong. More like 110F

to patrick and any others that simply say global warming is happening because they have been told by their governments, and government backed scientists whose jobs depend on them agreeing with them.
I say this didnt the government lie about Weapons of mass destruction, the millenium bug, Roswell, Diana, JFK, september 11, july 7, david kelly, and pretty much any thing else in history, why should we be expected to believe something just because they say it. History has shown that they continularly lie about everything, yet the majority just believe what they are told. Its very easy for you sheep out there to just say "oh thats a myth and all the above are conspiracys without any evidence. The fact is humans have been saying the world will end for as long as they have been around, as it hasnt, hasnt Nostradamus been wrong some many times already!

Answer 1

I believe the current "global warming" scare stories much like I believed the Y2K doom and gloom stories. Remember how at the stroke of midnight planes we to drop out of the sky?

30*C = 86*F

Romania did experience a heat wave this summer with the highest temps recorded this summer at 42*C.

42*C = 107*F

That's hot, but it's a far distance from 131*F

131*F = 55*C

Typical of global warming believers, the math just doesn't add up.

Answer 2

Actually, more CO2 does cause an increase in temperature, which in turn causes more CO2 and less oxygen, which then causes temperatures to rise. It's more of a cyclical thing than just the idea that temperature rising causes rising CO2 without CO2 having an effect on temperature.
Instead of finding your information off of random websites, you should try searching through scientific journals. Global warming is a complicated issue and even small amounts of CO2 have a decent impact. CO2 isn't the only contributor to the problem though, methane is a contributor as well, along with others.
The fact that the initial reading was done on a colder than average year is inconsequential. They are recording a wave like pattern over several decades. There have been many colder and warmer than "average" seasons in there. The idea is that the general temperature variations are staying in a higher range than they did several decades ago. This is definately something that people need to research more in depth to get a full understanding. Reputable scientific evidence shows that the climate is indeed increasing and that steps can be taken to slow it down or even stop it, although we can't really reverse what's been done. Scientists are the ones that are studying this in depth, not just looking up stuff on Wikipedia, so it might be best to pay attention to what they are saying.

Answer 3

It doesn't matter that CO2 makes up a small portion of the atmospheric gases, it is still responsible for 9-36% of the overall greenhouse effect. And it is true rises in temperature do cause rises in CO2, but it is also true that rises in CO2 cause rises in temperature. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

And it's true, as you say, that water vapor makes up a very large portion of the greenhouse effect. In fact, it's by far the most potent greenhouse gas by virtue of its sheer volume. However, water vapor acts as a function of temperature, so it cannot force the climate.

your third argument assumes that GW theory says that CO2 is the =only= driver of climate. Which is completely false. The theory says only that CO2 is the =most important= driver of =this= climate change. The temperature decrease from the 40's through the 70's was because some other forcing temporarily overwhelmed the warming signal from the CO2.

Yes, I still believe it.

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Edit: Dude, the government doesn't have anything to do with global warming theory. Remember, there are tens of thousands of scientists all over the world who agree with the theory as well. The world does not consist solely of the US of A.

Answer 4

I believe global warming is happening but not certain about the cause. Just as flooding suddenly became a major unexpected byproduct of global warming, I think we have another more volatile problem to face. When these things happen there is also a change in the amount of oxygen in the air. This is serious because our very lives depend on being able to breath. If the percentage of oxygen in the air decreases as it is capable of doing, you can see the problems we will have. When you go back to the original 4 elements of the ancients: fire, water, air and earth you will find major changes in all 4 with global warming.

Answer 5

C02 is everywhere and you cannot get ride of it.
Only trees can absorb C02 and get ride of it.
But we keep cutting the trees down.

Every person release C02 in the air each time they exhale.
And we now have 6.5 billion of them compared to just one billion 110 years ago.

Livestock production occupies 70% of all land used for agriculture, or 30% of the land surface of the planet. It is one of the largest sources of greenhouse gases—responsible for 18% of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions as measured in CO2 equivalents. But 6.5 billion people needs to eat.

By comparison, all transportation emits 13.5% of the CO2. It produces 65% of human-related nitrous oxide (which has 296 times the global warming potential of CO2) and 37% of all human-induced methane (which is 23 times as warming as CO2). It also generates 64% of the ammonia, which contributes to acid rain and acidification of ecosystems.

Producing electricity through coal produces 2 or 3 times more C02 than transportation.
Right now... China is opening a new coal power station every week to supply its fast moving industrialisation.

As for water vapor... it is true that it is worse than C02. But water vapor only occur after C02 has warmed up the atmosphere and caused the water to evaporate. In fact... water vapor is the last nail in the coffin. Once you have enough water vapor... the green house is not an effect anymore. We have a completed green house. And we will all die of starvation because we won't be able to grow anything. That is what we call "climate change".

Do I believe? Oh yes... it cannot be otherwise. Anyone who believe that this planet can support 6.5 billion people without causing pollution is a fool. Just wait 2040 when we have 9 billion people... if we ever make it to 2040... laugh.

You only have to think of the changes which have occured in the past 30 years and try to double those changes for the next 30 years. Mind boggling...

Answer 6

everyone mentions water vapor
water vapor does account for most of the greenhouse effect - water vapor can form clouds which have a net cooling effect
water molecules spend a couple days in the atmophere
co2 and methane molecules have an average lifetime of years in the atmosphere

co2 and methane account for over 30% of the greenhouse effect. Your making up stats, CO2 is .04% of the atmosphere, not greenhouse gases. Greenhouse gases are less than 1% of the atmosphere.

your other statements are flawed as well, but im sick of trying to correct people who only get their info from right wing web pages- you don't want to hear facts

edit

......conspricy theorists

Answer 7

Absolutely not.

I believe in science. The links provide the detailed proof you're looking for.

Man made CO2 may be small, but it is what is (mostly) causing the present warming.

http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/climate-change/dn11638

Historically, increases in CO2 lagged hundreds of years behind temperature. Warming started for other reasons, then CO2 was released from oceans. The process takes hundreds of years. This time CO2 is going up simultaneously, because it's the main cause of the warming.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=13

Water vapor moves easily between the air and liquid water on the ground, by rain. You can't start a warming by putting out water vapor, it just rains out. CO2 doesn't move easily or fast. Dump a bunch into the air and it stays there, overpowering nature like this:

http://scrippsco2.ucsd.edu/graphics_gallery/mauna_loa_record/mlo_record.html

It doesn't matter if 1880 was unusually cold, the temperature rise is undeniable:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif

The area very near the South pole is cooling because of the ozone hole, but the Earth is still warming overall (see the graph above).

The millennium bug was very real. It took many thousands of hours of work by computer programmers to fix, costing hundreds of billions of dollars. Your comparison is good, though. Global warming is every bit as real as the millennium bug was.

Still don't believe it? Try reading these (more proof):

http://profend.com/global-warming/
http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/dn11462
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/
http://www.realclimate.org
"climate science from climate scientists"
http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:Climate_Change_Attribution.png
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html
summarized at:
http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM2feb07.pdf

Answer 8

yes i do still believe in it. because its not only the green house effect thats making global warming happen. its also that we're taking oil and drying up places. the amount of trash is doing it too. they way we live is the reason for the cause of global warming. were going to make it so that the colder parts of the earth are just cool, not freezing like the animals on the area need it to be, and will not be able to adjust and will go extinct. like the polar bears. their going extinct

so whatever belive what you want. sure you clean up after yourself helps prevent it more

Answer 9

Nice summary of some of the myths. You've left out quite a few. Why don't you try floating this over in the Political section? They'd eat it up. Don't show your face over in Science though. They'd have you for lunch. Nobody here wants to debate you. This isn't a debate area. Don't waste the space.

Answer 10

There is no doubt that we have had a recent rise in global temperatures. The real question is why. Is pollution really causing it or is it something else. I lean towards it is something else.
Scientists are the same people who can not understand how a bumble bee flies. Yet we are supposed to just follow their theories now?