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Had Pakistanis been strong enough to defend themselves from the Persian Mongol armies, who forced them to convert to Islam many centuries ago, would they have been better off or worse off???

This is a wholly hypothetical and speculative question and there are no right or wrong answers.

2007-09-21 21:31:40 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Capn, you can delude yourself into believing that your ancestors betrayed Hinduism with their own free will but we all know that such is not the case. Do you honestly think that the invading Muslim armies sat there and conducted tutorials about what a beautiful religion Islam was? They pretty much said convert or be killed. I suggest that you read the diaries and autobiographies left by Barbar, Aurungzeb and all the other Mughal monsters where they clearly boast about subjugating millions of Hindus to Islam. They also boast about the razoring of temples and the destruction of Hindu bibles. Most of Pakistanis converted to save their necks and most of Indian Muslims and Bangladeshies converted to escape the heavy tax that was levied upon non-Muslims. Go and learn your own history before teaching me about mine.

2007-09-22 23:24:48 · update #1

15 answers

Go check out India. That may give you some ideas.

2007-09-21 21:57:39 · answer #1 · answered by One Odd Duck 6 · 0 2

Your question is hypothetical one but badly biased.

Islam was never forced upon any one. Had it been true, the Hindus wouldn't be in the majority since Muslim rulers had all the time in the world and absolute power to force conversion.

Your views are not supported by the history..........


" It is altogether a misconception that the Arabian progress was due to the 'sword' alone.THE SWORD MAY CHANGE AN ACKNOWLEDGED NATIONAL CREED, BUT IT CAN NOT EFFECT THE CONSCIENCES OF MEN."-- [The Historic Role of Islam, by M.N.Roy,pg-49,Vora & Co.8 Round Building, Bombay-2]


".........I became more than ever convinced that it was NOT THE SWORD that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. IT WAS THE RIGID SIMPLICITY, the utter self-affacement of the Prophet, the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his interpidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. THESE AND NOT THE SWORD carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. -- [Mahatma Gandhi in his article published in 'YOUNG INDIA' in 1924]


" No other religion in history spread so rapidly as Islam. The West has widely believed that this surge of religion was made possible by the sword. But no modern scholar accepts this idea, and the Quran is explicit in the support of the FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE."--James Michener in his article,"Islam: The misunderstood religion", Reader's Digest,May-1955,p-68-70]

It is unfortunate that Islam has been stereotyped as the 'religion of the sword' or that Islam was spread by the sword.' The historical reality is that the expansion of Islam was usually by persuasion and not by military power. In any case, Islam cannot be forced on anyone; if profession of the shahadah (i.e. the declaration of Islam) is forced on someone, it is not true Islam" (A Muslim Primer by Ira
Zepp, Jr., 1992, Wakefield Editions, US, p134)


"History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races, is one of the most fantastically ABSURD MYTHS that historians have ever repeated."--[Islam At the Crossroads by De Lacy o'Leary,1923]

Therefore your question needs to be corrected.


EDIT :



You forgot that History was not written or invented by me. And the Historians I quoted were not fools.

For a moment if you point is to be considered, how will you explain the reason that despite being so overzealous Muslims .......
and despite having absolute power [ SWORD as you often say] ..........
and despite having WHALE OF A TIME of almost 100O long long years, the Muslim rulers couldn not convert the Hindu majority into a minoirity ???

And which Muslim ruler forced the Kashmere velley to embrace Islam ?

And who forced Indonesians Malaysians to embrace Islam ?

Many more logical question which you can not answer.

2007-09-23 02:57:07 · answer #2 · answered by ♪¢αpη' ε∂ïß♪ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 6 · 1 2

Don't you think that British rule would have created a temporary state where the fundamental elements would diminish to some degree. I think the combination of the rise of nationalism and partition would have had more impact on Pakistan today than the previous religious status.

If it had 'remained' a Hindu country, it would probably be India and not Pakistan.

2007-09-22 04:37:22 · answer #3 · answered by jct101 3 · 1 0

Would we still have religious violence if:
The Mongols would not have converted to Islam?
Islam was defeated when they attacked India?
Islam was stopped before they got to Spain?
The crusades were permanently successful?

We would definitely have a different world, but we would still have differences in religion. However, I do not believe that we would have the religious terrorists that we have today.

2007-09-22 08:08:54 · answer #4 · answered by Lionheart ® 7 · 1 1

A lot.
Hindu country India made its missileman president, They interned and humiliated their President.
Hindu country India sacked its Admiral Bishnu Bhagwat. he barked for a few days like a hurt dog and evaporated into oblivion. There, a sacked General have access to navigational tools of a passenger airliner to communicate with his forces to seize power.
Hindu country India keeps its ex Presidents and Prime Ministers within the State giving them pension. Their ex es flee country.
Corruption Charges are drawn and dropped as per convenience of power.
Pakistan is a disaster.

2007-09-22 04:36:43 · answer #5 · answered by sexy grandmother 4 · 1 3

Yes it was really different. Then it was a hindu one believing many seen gods instead of One true unseen GOD. I think Pakistan was real originator of Hindu religion. Even word India was derived from Indus a river in Pakistan. Hindus were called Sindhus, meaning people living near Sindh (Indus) river. Then from the same relation Alexander called them Indians. But the Mongol brought guidance with their high flying flags. Which original hindus accepted because prophet Mohammad SAW was the same who was prophesised in their Vedas and he was called Kalki Avtar (A rashi-prophet of Kal Yug). They recognised and accepted but the people who became hindu by their hard punishments remained adamant on their belief.

Despite being a proud past hindu I salute the great Mongols who show us guidance. They defeated my ancestors but exalted their grades in this and that world. Bravo Mongols! our well-wishers.

2007-09-22 05:02:55 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

Pakistan did not even exist during Persian Mangol Era.
so how could persians have attatcked Pak, even hypothetically or speculatively. for your kind information Pakistan came into being only in 1947

2007-09-22 04:37:43 · answer #7 · answered by delta 7 · 4 1

u got very weak history back ground
pakistan came into being 60 years back while persian mongol attacked INDIA sme 1000 years back
so ur question is null and void

2007-09-22 05:43:06 · answer #8 · answered by Eccentric 7 · 2 1

Mate Mahatma Gandhi ji have done one mistake that is seprating India and Pakistan.He would have better give the president post to someone else.He commited this mistake otherwise Pkistan &India will be reain friends and as 1 country.He gave the majority of muslims area to mohammad ali jinha and hindus area to jawhar lala nehru if he said i will not give you to anyone of you iw ill give it to somebody.If India& Pakistan are together then it has 92% chance of overtaking china and america.

2007-09-22 04:38:58 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

There will be no sensation if everything is quiet and peaceful .Who will train the terrorists for the international areana? Whoi else will protect osam bin laden? Who will the US look to as its closest alley to fight against themselves and destroy the Americans and their properties ?

2007-09-22 12:35:50 · answer #10 · answered by Infinity 7 · 1 1

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