JW's Why does the NWT say that GOd was manifest in human flesh?

Question

Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: ‘He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in [the] world, was received up in glory.’ 1 Tim. 3:16 NWT

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 Tim. 3:16 KJV

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:14

God can't lie. Titus 1:2

Jesus was only a perfect man, not God in flesh, Reasoning from the Scriptures,
1985, pp. 306.

Ummm who's lying? Seems obvious to me!

For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Col. 2:9

And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” Ex. 3:14

Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” John 8:58

I and My Father are one. John 10:30

The JW's are now denying God's word...

For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 2 John 7

Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 2 John 9

It's completely obvious to me that Jesus Christ is almighty God!

We know that Jesus wasn't a created angel.

For to which of the angels did He ever say:
“ You are My Son,Today I have begotten You”? Heb. 1:5

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Phil. 2:5-8

For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word(JESUS), and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. 1 John 5:7

We know Jesus wasn't created so the only thing we can say is that Jesus or Jehovah came to earth in human flesh. Scripture says they are all ONE! ie the SAME PERSON.

See Col 2:9

Heavenly eyes-

Man up and ANSWER THE QUESTION! You are a prime example of a draft dodger. It's not question and question but question and answer! I ask, you answer! Isn't that what yahoo answers is all about!? At least some of the other JW's have stepped up to the plate and they have my respect for that. Grow a pair and answer the question. You would be wise to say that the watchtower lied and that you've been deceived.

Tee M, extremely poor understanding of Scripture. How can Jesus have the essence of God and not be God? You need to read the Scriptures I posted, especially Ex. 3:14, Jn. 8:58, and 1 Tim. 3:16. JW's who ignore these Scriptures are calling God a liar!

Answer 1

I think the difficulty Jehovah's Witnesses have with the triune nature of the Godhead is that they believe the Trinity is polytheistic - they say it promotes three Gods - Jehovah, Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit. This, of course, is not what the triune nature of the Godhead is all about.

God was manifest at creation. God was manifest as a human, in the person of Jesus, which is why he is called Immanuel - God with us. God was manifest at Pentecost with the coming of the Holy Spirit, and is still manifest now. All three manifestations of God are in perfect harmony and unity. By failing to acknowledge Jesus' humanity and divinity, Jehovah's Witnesses are unable to worship Christ Jesus as Lord and Saviour. They are also unable to acknowledge that the Holy Spirit is God with us now.

Christ Jesus reveals himself to us through the Holy Spirit when we get down on our knees and humbly seek him. Untill Jehovah's Witnesses stop reading the Watchtower Society publications they are never going to get it. Their New World Translation is the work of Westcott and Hort - but udulterated by their so-called committee of translators (none of whom had any qualifications to translate anything) in order to back up their belief that Jesus was not divine.

When I was a Jehovah's Witness I used to believe that the Trinity was a pagan doctrine. I passionately argued against the Trinity. Then I met up with the risen Lord, and He revealed himself to me. I once was blind, now I can see. I once was deaf, now I can hear. But I had to get down on my knees first and humbly seek Him.

This is so serious an issue that everything else Jehovah's Witnesses believe does not really matter. Until they bend the knee and worship Jesus as Lord and Saviour they will remain unsaved.

Answer 2

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Answer 3

JW's are only One of many Angles of observation.

Jesus was an entity of High Sprituality Interpreted as "son of man" or "God" in the time and place he arrived in flesh.

Consider time a facade and perspective a large city or place.

Further, Consider Jesus "Entity X" WITHOUT A NAME or culture.

Entity X has entered our realm of existence to Teach a path of Truth, truth in self.

As X walks down a city block teaching he is seen by many others standing on different corners and in different neighborhoods.

From each perspective X is given a name and title by those whom see him; he is proclaimed "God" by some, Prophet by others and false Prophet by many; some think he is an idiot from Nazarene without a job.

Some have called Him Jesus, some Buddah and Mohammad; each felt they had come to know a messiah.

Time belongs to man, not God. Jesus, Buddah and Mohammad were all one and the same viewed from a different corner.

And this is the nature of reality as perspective of being is relative to environment.

Lying is a strong word, belief is another.

What is sad is the closing of eyes to Truth and the fighting to determine "who is right"; for perspective is all about how one feels and why can't this be respected?

Answer 4

That incontrovertible truth that he known in diverse distinct bodies and wasn't before everything recognized, shows that he replaced right into a materialized spirit creature as angels or perhaps demons had performed interior the previous. The demons materalized and had children, lived as human beings till the flood got here and they dematerialized and went decrease back to heaven. were they human? No, they were spirit creatures. A human won't be able to change right into a distinct body and seem and disappear at will, besides the undeniable fact that a spirit creature can. If Jesus were resurrected as a human, he might want to were resurrected like Lazarus and others who were resurrected, he might want to were resurrected in his own body. The bible says that flesh and blood won't be able to enter heaven.

Answer 5

The Scriptures make it clear that Jesus was entirely human from his birth until his death. John did not say that the Word was merely clothed with flesh. He “became flesh” and was not part flesh and part God. If Jesus had been human and divine at the same time, it could not have been said that he had been “made a little lower than angels.” Hebrews 2:9

If Jesus had been both God and man when on the earth, why did he repeatedly pray to Jehovah? Paul wrote: “In the days of his flesh Christ offered up supplications and also petitions to the One who was able to save him out of death, with strong outcries and tears, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear.”

That Jesus was not partly a spirit when on the earth is proved by Peter’s statement that Christ was “put to death in the flesh, but, made alive in the spirit.” (1 Peter 3:18) Only because Jesus was wholly human could he have experienced what imperfect people experience and thus become a sympathetic high priest. Wrote Paul: “We have as high priest, not one who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who has been tested in all respects like ourselves, but without sin.”, Hebrews 4:15.

As “the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world,” Jesus “gave himself a corresponding ransom for all.” In that way, Jesus bought back exactly what Adam had lost, perfect, eternal human life. Since God’s justice required ‘soul for soul,’ Jesus thus had to be what Adam was originally, a perfect human, not a God-man.

Answer 6

God almighty never came to earth unless God lies he sent his son (John 3:16) is that is a lie that was the son of God who came to earth?

let me ask you something why ever the christians run away when JWs ask them what will Jesus do woth the earth after Armageddon? is false that the earth will become a paradise under Jesus rulership? if is false can you prove it with the bible? and if is true why christians never talk about that?

by the way that verse 1 Timothy is fixed in more serious translation including catholics didn´t says "God" also in the greek text neither.

Answer 7

Manifest: (does not mean what you think it does)

1 : readily perceived by the senses and especially by the sight
2 : easily understood or recognized by the mind

How is the invisible God preceived or understood?

By his image

2 Cor 4:4 in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Col 1:15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

Heb 1:3And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature,

Jesus has the nature of God, the essence of God, but he is not God.

‘ESSENCE’: "the individual, real, or ultimate nature of a thing especially as OPPOSED to its existence (caps by me)

: one that possesses or exhibits a quality in abundance AS IF in concentrated form " (caps by me)

Jehovah's manifestation or essence is reflected by the perfect mirror image of Jesus. The picture of God.


Titus 1:2 God can not lie!

Matt 3: 17and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased."

I believe Jehovah when he says Jesus is his Son.

I believe Jehohah when he said the God of Jesus anointed him above his companions:

Heb 1: 9"YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS;
THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU
WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE YOUR COMPANIONS." (caps by NASB)

The bible never said God came down in the flesh and lived with mankind.


1 Tim 3:16By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness:
He who was revealed in the flesh,
Was vindicated in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Proclaimed among the nations,
Believed on in the world,
Taken up in glory.


Was he revealed? Yes, was God seen? NO!

(KJV) John 1: 18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

God wasn't seen but declared. Jesus was able to show us how God reacts in all things, Why because Jesus was God?

NO, be cause Jesus imitated his Father perfectily.

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Answer 8

I am waiting for one of the Witnesses to directly answer your question, and left wanting.

Where is Auchtung-Heiss..I mean Bill ( I get them confused in that they are the same poster) .to come to scriptural aide with a toilet paper roll of watchtower answers saying Their Bible says not say that in 1Tim.3:16?


The error of their doctrine has been pointed out time and time again, and because they would prefer to adhere to their traditions and take the easy and comfortable way out, they will lie. Knowing that you are not worshiping in truth and continuing to go door to door with a counterfeit Christianity, is Apostasy.......Now I get to call you, Apostates, and be scripturally accurate in doing so.

Answer 9

Indeed. God can't lie. Titus 1:2

Thus No one saw Jesus or Jesus is not God. - John 1:18.

Answer 10

Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one.

Jhn 10:31 ¶ Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

Jhn 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

Jhn 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

Jhn 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

Jhn 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

Jhn 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Jhn 10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.

Jhn 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father [is] in me, and I in him.

Psa 82:6-7 I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High.

But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness