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God’s covenant was with Abraham, what Jacob have to do with it? Please: don’t quote any biblical scripture.

I need koran’s references ONLY.

If the Arabs think that they are Ishmael’s descendants, why the Arabs speak Arabic only, instead Hebrew?

If the Arabs think that they are Ishmael’s descendants why the koran indicates that God made His covenant with Isaac and Jacob WITHOUT Ishmael?

If the Arabs are Ishmael’s descendants the son of Abraham, why the koran commands the believers to kill the Hebrews and the Christians?

2007-09-16 05:39:45 · 7 answers · asked by Zimrari 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I DID READ THE KORAN.

The koran indicates that God made His covenant with Isaac and Jacob, God didn’t made a covenant with Ishmael. If you have any references from the koran please post them.

2007-09-16 05:52:38 · update #1

I want to quote some passages from the koran but the moderate of this site is not publishing my topic that concerns my contradiction about Islam on the web, BUT HE DID publish all my topics that contradict Christianity. I reality my topic is not contracting, it is reality. They are hiding the truth. If you like the truth search the Internet and read the koran and don’t depend on my word.

2007-09-18 15:08:32 · update #2

The koran confirms the accuracy of the Torah and Jesus' gospel, which indicate that Abraham made a covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and Jesus was born through the Holy Spirit, it doesnْt indicate Jesus is the Son of God or God. The koran confirms the Torah and Jesus' gospel according to this statement, soura 3:93''''''. The koran confirms that Moses book =(Torah) is inspired by God and accurate, soura Aliname 6:154 to 157. The koran says in verse 156 that Moses' book was inspired for two religions before Islam, which is Judaism and Christianity, and in verse 157 says that if that book was inspired for Islam they would be more righteous than them.

However, why the Moslems follow the koran instead the Torah?

If the Torah and Jesus' gospel indicates during that era that Jesus is the Son of God and God, the koran wouldn't confirm the accuracy of the Torah and Jesus' gospel as the Word of God. The Koran contradicts the priests and the monksْ theology for making Jesus the Son

2007-09-22 05:07:58 · update #3

of God and God, the koran wouldn't confirm the accuracy of the Torah and Jesus' gospel as the Word of God. The Koran contradicts the priests and the monksْ theology for making Jesus the Son of God, God, and the Holy Spirit. The koran doesnْt contradict the Torah and Jesusْ gospel =(bible). The Koran contradicts the Jews the Christians priests and the Chrsitians people. The koran names the priests liars, (soura Alhadid 57:27), the Christians are liars also because they lied about God has a son, which is Jesus =(Issa), (soura Alkahf 18:5), the Jews are liars also soura Alomran 3:75, the christians blasphemed by making God three persons ôtrinity¤ soura Almaeda 5:71 to 5:73, Almaeda 5:17 to 18, the koran warns the Christians to stop lying in their religion and saying God is three and has a son, soura Alnisa 4:171, Issa =(Jesus) is God's servant (slave), soura Alnisa 4:172. The koran commands the Moslem believers not to be friends with the Jews and the christians soura Almaeda 5:51.

2007-09-22 05:10:47 · update #4

The koran says: God is blaming Jesus for telling his followers to worship him and his mother Mary as two Gods, Jesus answered: my Lord I have no right to say what you have not told me, 116, what I told them is what you have told me, and I was watching them and you were witnessed on all 117, torch them they are yours, soura Almaeda 5:116 to 118.
Whosoever doesn't believe in the koran's scriptures shall go to hell forever, soura Alirafe 7:36. And hit them over their necks =(slay them) and strike all their children, because they disobeyed God and his prophet =(Mohamed) soura Alinfale 8:12 to 13.
Kill the Chrsitians wherever you find them and captive them and block their ways, if the repent and pray and pay the taxes let them go, God is merciful, soura Altawba 9:5. Kill them, God shall torch them by your hands and revenge the chest of the believers, sourah Altawba 9:14.

2007-09-22 05:12:45 · update #5

The christians are fitly, infected, and defiled and blasphemers, they should not enter the forbiden musk, (29) kill those that don't believe in God and in the last day, sourah Altawba 9:28 to 29. The Jews say Azerah is the son of God and the Christians say the Messiah is the son of God, they blaspheme through their sayings (30). They make their monks and priests Lords excluding God and the Messiah the son of Mary, which they were commanded to obey one God, sourah Altawba 9:30 to 31. Many of the priests and the monks swallowed people's moneys unjustly, and they stock gold and silver without spending toward God, we preach for them extreme sufferings, (34). One day the fire of hell iron their foreheads and their backs and this is their treasures that they have stocked, soura Altawba 9:34 to 35.
Don't desire the Christians' moneys or their children, God want to torch them through it as they are blaspheming, soura Altawba 9:55.

2007-09-22 05:14:17 · update #6

Don't forgive them seventy times, if you do, God wouldn't forgive them because they didn't believe in God and in his prophet, God doesn't lead the blasphemers, soura Altawba 9:80.
the koran commands to kill the Jews and the chrsitians that donْt believe in allah and in the koran, and in the prophet Mohamed, soura.
The koran indicates that alah created enemy and hate with the christians till the resurrection day, soura Almaeda 5:15. It blames the christians hiding verses in the bible =(book), sourah Almaeda 5:15. Don't pray over their dead and never stand near their graves because they blasphemed God and his prophet and they died in their transgressions, soura Altawba 9:84. God warns those that say God has a son (4), and whatsoever they say is a lie, soura Alkahf 18:4 5.
If the believer commit adultery or married with Christian whip them eighty times, sourah Alnour 24:3 to 4.

2007-09-22 05:14:54 · update #7

Koran's SOURCE

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html


http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/SURAI.HTM better English

2007-09-22 05:20:29 · update #8

7 answers

(If the Arabs think that they are Ishmael’s descendants, why the Arabs speak Arabic only, instead Hebrew? )

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If you had studied Arabic and Hebrew then you would have come to know that Arabic and Hebrew are the sister languages.
Moreover again check the origin of both the languages.you will find the reason.

And who said you that Quran commands the believers to kill any one.
I know why you are asking this.

some non-believer quotes a verse from Quran
"where-ever you find a non-muslim,Kill him".
if you had heard this
then Brother it is out of context. It is in surah Toba
If you read Surah toba from verse 1.

It says about war.
Tell me one thing, if enemies had attacked you.what you will do.
you will obviously fight with them.
And Allah says in that verse that
in the battle field where ever you find a non-muslim kill him.


And if you had told your religion. I should had told the verses of killing in your religion.(Bible has twice the verses of killing than Quran).
I had studied almost all religions and i know that the Islam is the Most peaseful Religion.

2007-09-23 01:52:35 · answer #1 · answered by Farazi 3 · 0 2

I am happy that you read both of the books
I think it's enough to find out that Islam Had no base and compare Which religion leading to the before Ibrahim age

2007-09-24 10:58:30 · answer #2 · answered by A X 1 · 0 0

you should've discovered that the Koran is a "Kludge" book,illolgical and cannot be trusted as a historical reference,muslims themselves claim that 62% of its verses are "nasikh & mansokh" the meaning of which it is full with contadictories.even (koran's souras&verses) are not gathered &set according to sequenceof their ascent,it is a mess,muslims insist in keeping it this way so no body can understand it , ,leaving the door open to many interpretations .

2007-09-24 06:05:02 · answer #3 · answered by jammal 6 · 1 0

Abraham was chosen to be a Great Prophet of the Creator of the Universe.

Abraham had two sons who were both to be blessed with a Holy Covenant.

The Holy Covenant are promises from The Lord of Abraham in return for taking on the responsibility to "Make Allah/God known to the World" and establishing the “laws of God” on the Earth.

Ishmael - first son - ISLAM
Issac - second son - JUDAISM & Christianity

JUDAISM is the covenant through Isaac.
ISLAM is the covenant through Ishmael.

1-----After Abraham had lived ten years in the land of Canaan, Abram's wife Sarai took Hagar the Egyptian, her maid, and gave her to her husband Abram as HIS WIFE. -- GENESIS 16:3

2------So Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram called the name of HIS SON, whom Hagar bore, ISHMAEL. - GENESIS 16:15


Quran doesnt command to kill the Hebrews and christians.

It gave them permission to fight back agains the pagans of Mecca.

Reading the verses out of context is incorrect and dangerous.

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2007-09-16 12:43:23 · answer #4 · answered by Mithrianity 3 · 1 2

Truth my friend, you make a good question, and i wish i could justify a reason on certain beliefs, but the world is full of hate and evil . some good and bad, hard to tell sometimes what to read or believe, but i believe we all need to love more and help each other to see what our heart is asking.

2007-09-24 01:24:58 · answer #5 · answered by K 5 · 0 0

yes

2007-09-23 23:13:22 · answer #6 · answered by jul b 1 · 0 0

i dont know what ur talking about. but i have a feeling ur being antimuslims again. :(

2007-09-16 13:22:33 · answer #7 · answered by Pete C 3 · 0 0

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