Should you have to speak Spanish for promotion?

Question

Ashley Furniture Ind. Arcadia WI. Population 2402 census 2000.

While Ashley has not required their supervisors to speak Spanish yet, they have recommended that they learn it. The suggestion implies that for promotion you must speak Spanish.
Why would a company in a town of predominantly Polish and Norwegian descendants need to speak Spanish.
The workers have always come from there and the surrounding towns which share the same ethnicity.
This company has been caught hiring illegals in the past. This has not deterred them; in fact they are still bringing them in and catering to them to the extent of implying that anyone who does not cater to the illegals will be putting future advancement or current positions in jeopardy.
Why would they need to speak Spanish, when many of the Mexican workers who have invaded this town, at the behest of Big Business, claim “No habla Ingles while at work, but habla fine after work in the bar.

Is it time that Americans REFUSE to cater to illegals?

Is it time that Americans remind the Government that our laws need to be enforced; that they are supposed to protect, represent, and serve us, their citizens?

If the illegals are allowed to ignore our laws, and the Government and big business also ignore our laws: is it time for us to ignore the laws which work against us and take back our country?

I don't work there, I used to and still have many friends who still do. My source is a supervisor there with whom I used to go to church.
Currently I am going to college for my BA degree.
This is not "made up", my friend is now taking Spanish to protect his job for his childrens future.
Our Govenment and Big business is holding our childrens futures hostage to ensure our compliance with their program of forcing us to accept the end of personal rights.

Putnuck, been there done that.
It is a big complex, when they hit one part the word spreads and the other parts lose some workers for a few days, then everything goes back to normal. It honestly doesn't even seem to slow them down.

To the poster who bought the junk furniture: They used to call it throw-away furniture in their training for new hires because it is only expected to last five years.
Now they call it replacable furniture.
Who ever would have thought that we would some day have to be politicaly correct when refering to furniture.

Answer 1

Wow, and here I was hoping that my husband and I would escape to where he's from in Wisconsin where they actually realize that America is a country in which we speak ENGLISH. I was born and raised in California, and have been refusing to learn Spanish since the 7th grade. Though I am in the health care field I still refuse, deciding to learn only what is necessary to provide care. The fact that people can come to this country and expect US to learn THEIR language is DISGUSTING. My great grandfather came here from Italy and was PROUD to learn ENGLISH. He may have had an accent, he may have not been able to write as well as everyone, but damn it he KNEW ENGLISH. The fact that we cater to these people makes me sick, and still pisses my grandfather off so badly that he will walk off swearing in Italian if he encounters someone that refuses to learn English. This country needs to STOP trying to be politically correct, because it's only hindering our progress. I am NOT racist, I just hate it when people expect me to adapt to them when they are in MY country. If you want to be here, COME HERE LEGALLY, LEARN ENGLISH, AND FLY THE AMERICAN FLAG ABOVE ALL OTHERS. Sure, my great grandfather had an Italian flag in his yard until the day he died, but it flew BELOW the American flag, because America gave him a better life, America was where he lived, and American was what he wanted to be.

In short yes, we need to STOP catering to illegals and kick them ALL out. No, I shouldnt have to need to know spanish to get a promotion, none the less to get a job in general (in California more often then not you will NOT be hired if you do not know spanish and there's someone who is applying that does). The government needs to protect AMERICANS. The freedoms my husband fights for are for AMERICANS. WE NEED TO TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK AND NOT GIVE A DAMN WHO IT OFFENDS. It is OUR country. Period.

I only hope that people soon wake up to the way this country is being taken advantage of. God Bless America.

Answer 2

Business is business, not a democracy. It may be 'discrimination' but since it's not based on who you are, just on your skill set, I don't think there's much you can do about it. If I were a business owner and I'd get a lot more customers or be able to make business deals more easily if my employees were bilingual, I'd prefer to have bilingual employees and I'd offer incentives (such as promotions or pay bonuses) to people who could speak English and Spanish. Spanish speaking customers are still paying customers, and I wouldn't want to lose them to the competition. It would be a good idea for immigrants to learn English, sure. But things are what they are, and you can't reasonably ask a business to commit financial suicide by not paying attention to what their customers want. Edited to add: If you left your last job angry and let everyone know it, that might be another possible reason you're not getting hired. If potential employers call up your former employer and they're told, "She refused to take Spanish training, then threw a hissy fit and quit when she didn't get a promotion," it won't make them feel all warm and fuzzy about you; it'll make them worry about whether you're a difficult person who has a bad temper. If you said any of the stuff you just told us here in your interview, that may be a strike against you as well. Also, there may have been factors besides Spanish that made them decide to hire a different candidate. You just don't know that for sure.

Answer 3

I wonder if this is true about this company (what is your source?) I have to say though, I live in WI, and there are growing numbers of mexican population here....in fact I understand they just opened a spanish speaking only clinic in Green Bay! I think all immigrants need to assimmilate and learn the language- eh hem ENGLISH. The time is waaay past due. I have no problem whatsoever with other cultures and people from other countries immigrating legally to the US. I just think if people are going to come here, they need to have some respect for the culture HERE, and the language etc. and not expect to be catered to.

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Answer 5

I said this same thing during high school 20 years ago. They had just made a requirement to have one year of Spanish class. The reasoning was because the forecast was that there would be more and more Spanish people coming here and we would have to be able to communicate. I said "Shouldn't they be the ones learning English since they are the ones coming here?, Why are we made to learn Spanish when we made no decision on the matter?" I got no answer. Same as we get now when we question this. It is ridiculous and we should have all refused this from the very beginning. At least those of us who were adults at the time.

Answer 6

No...absolutely not. And, for that matter, if the promotion is only given to those that can speak spanish then isn't that discrimination?.....oh, no, wait a minute....I apologize....discrimination can only be claimed if you are a minority...sorry, my bad. The fact remains at this point in our country's history that we have indeed been "occupied" by those that we welcomed into this country. Yes, you can whine and whimper all day about how all of us are from another country waaayyy back in our roots but you CAN'T argue the fact that the language in this country is, and should always be, E N G L I S H. Period. Why is that changing you ask? Because we allow it. And why do we have to allow it? Because if we speak up and voice OUR opinions of how we think it is wrong to add another language then we are called racists...and boy are the businesses who use cheap labor, especially illegal labor, in this country happy to oblige those coming in by making it as easy as possible by adding "their" language, "their" television and radio stations, "their" grocery and convenience stores and "their" advertising so as to make "their" transition as smooth as possible and to lure even more into "their" new country...the USA or more aptly stated, "United Spain of America".

Answer 7

Hell no,I'm an American why should I learn a language that has no relation to me in any way?! I have lost a job before for that reason and if I have to lose 10 more, I will not be forced to learn that language.

Answer 8

Absolutely not! No other groups of immigrants have asked for this in the past, maybe because they were legal and wanted to be a citizen. I think it is discrimination and it's time for someone who has been affected by this to bring it to light! I'm so sick of these illegals, especially the Hispanics who dare to march for rights in my country that I could scream!!! I still say to deport them all regardless of country of origin!

Answer 9

Is it time that Americans REFUSE to cater to illegals?

Is it time that Americans remind the Government that our laws need to be enforced; that they are supposed to protect, represent, and serve us, their citizens?


Hel* yes!!

Answer 10

"Is it time that Americans REFUSE to cater to illegals?"
Yes

"Is it time that Americans remind the Government that our laws need to be enforced; that they are supposed to protect, represent, and serve us, their citizens?"
Yes

"If the illegals are allowed to ignore our laws, and the Government and big business also ignore our laws: is it time for us to ignore the laws which work against us and take back our country?"
Yes