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some people say if god created this world and us than who created god?

2007-09-08 13:07:37 · 28 answers · asked by Just Me 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Man invented God. No mystery there. He even went so far as to invent religions to go along with it.

2007-09-08 13:14:20 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

Everything which has a beginning has a cause. The universe has a beginning. Therefore the universe has a cause.

God always existed which means he did not have a beginning and therefore he was not created and does not need to have been made by something or someone.

For many years, evolutionists attempted to prove that the Universe was eternal, always existed and never had a beginning. For, they reasoned, if scientists were to ever arrive at the conclusion that the Universe had a beginning, then evolutionists would have to face the next logical question: "What caused the beginning of the Universe?"

Having to answer that "What caused the beginning of the Universe?" question makes rationally thinking evolutionists very uncomfortable.

Well, Scientists have now shown definitively that the Universe did have a beginning and there was a time when it did not exist.
Because the universe had a beginning and was not eternal as originally thought, therefore, someone, or something that IS eternal and DID always exist MUST have been there BEFORE the Universe began AND this would therefore be the most logical cause of the universe coming into being.

That something or someone is God.

He does not himself need to have been made by a creator because he always was.

Only things that have a beginning need a beginner.

God, unlike the universe, is eternal, he had no beginning, so doesn't need a cause. He is the creator of time. Therefore He is not limited by the time dimension He created, he has no beginning in time and he can simultaneously be in the Past, Present and Future.

Funny thing is, Atheists had no problem believing the universe could transcend time and space when science thought the Universe was eternal. But now that science has discovered the universe had a beginning, why do Atheists have so much trouble believing that if not the universe then something else (God) must have been able to transcend time and space?

This leaves atheists in a real dilemma: either accept a transcendent cause for the universe (namely God) or believe that something can come from nothing. While both ideas are so mind-blowing they are hard for us to get our heads around, a pre-existent God is the most rational explanation because to believe that matter and energy came from nothing out of nowhere all by itself defies a commonsense principle: “Out of nothing, nothing comes.” Some-thing simply can’t come from no-thing. Either it was always there or something (or someone) that WAS always there made it happen.

Atheist professor Kai Nielsen admitted, “Suppose you hear a loud bang…and you ask me, ‘What made that bang?’ and I reply, ‘Nothing, it just happened.’ You would not accept that.” If that is true of a little bang, then why not a big bang too?

He makes a good point!

Moreover, if God is...well...God, then He is a supernatural force. And the very definition of "supernatural" means that He stands OUTSIDE of nature and is not restricted by the laws of nature. If God is God, then he needs no Creator, he IS the creator.

Since God, by definition, is the creator of the whole universe, he is the creator of time. Therefore He is not limited by the time dimension He created, so he has no beginning in time.

Therefore God did not come from anywhere. No one made the Creator of the universe. He had no beginning, and will have no ending. He is the eternal, self-existing Being that we used to think the universe was but we now know has to be the someone or something that was here before the universe and therefore transcends time and space.

Remember, we just saw that Science and man were happy to believe that the Universe was eternal and were comfortable with the idea that it always existed until science found it did have a beginning and there was therefore a time when it didn't exist. In addition, Einstein's general relativity, which has much experimental support, shows that time is linked to matter and space. So time itself would have begun along with matter and space and even time did not previously exist.

So if we were happy to believe that the universe was eternal and did not need a creator, why do we get bent out of shape at the idea that God is eternal and does not need to have been created? Why do we deny God the very same qualities we were happy to endow on the Universe?

2007-09-08 20:48:54 · answer #2 · answered by jeffd_57 6 · 0 0

God, unlike the universe, can not be infinate...This might be a little..Or very hard for you to understand but I'l try. Pay attention now -smacks with ruler.-

God in essance, could not have existed before he created existance, that makes no sense. Be he infinate or not, the assertion that this being always existed, since before anything existed, will never make sense, it will always be impossible- Even if this being created all that exists in the first place. Nothing can exist before anything was created, with me? Christianity in general is the religion that somehow claims omniscience- This is what gives Christians their god. Their god knows exactly as much as they do. Example, I can not create an imaginary friend that knows more than I do- That doesn't work. So, in general, Christianity plays out like this.:

Christians themselves claim a certain essance of omniscience (meaning to know everything).. With thinking that goes like this: "If this were understandable, then I should be able to understand (or imagine) it. I do NOT (can not) understand (or imagine) it... therefore it is NOT understandable... and since it is NOT understandable (by me), it logically follows that it cannot be 'true'. Therefore... God did it." . I'm sorry, that is how the religion works, your god will never know anything more than the people who fathomed it- Christians created God as an imaginary being, they used to explain things they did not understand. The Bronze age, people were not as intellegent as they are now. Not by a long shot.

2007-09-08 20:37:48 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

This is a question I have asked all my life. I have been "taught" that God has always been. But I even when I was 9 years old, I ask our priest at a catholic church, "where did God come from?" His answer was that god has always been. I have never accepted that answer. I think that everything has a beginning and an end. But I can not explain God, or many other things in life.
I also believe that if there is a God, he made me want to find these answers.

2007-09-09 06:06:11 · answer #4 · answered by the fnho 3 · 0 0

The correct answer is: Man.

The fundamental problem with creationism is that all of the arguments (leaving aside those based purely on the Bible) tend to revolve around the idea that the complexity of the universe, and its apparent "convenience" for mankind in our particular niche of it, can only be accounted for on the assumption that it was created, and that "God" is the Creator. Well - and how do we account for "God"?

Or, we can start with the premise that an "actual infinite" can't exist; so the universe, being actual, must also be finite, and must therefore have had a beginning, and therefore a cause. Then we make a leap and identify this "cause" with "God" - but OK, fine, whatever you want to call it. But the next question, again, is - What caused God?

All of these arguments are what you call "obscurum per obscurius" - explanations of the obscure in terms of the even more obscure. They don't explain anything; they simply dodge the question entirely by inventing "God" and defining Him as the Being Who's exempt from all the rules. The arguments used to arrive at the conclusion that God exists are the very arguments against Him!

2007-09-08 20:10:27 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 5

This question is kind of like wanting to know what contains the universe, and what is its bounderies?
With His name, Yehweh God declares that He is the first cause of everything that exists. He says, "Before Him no god formed nor any afterward." ~ Isaiah 43:10
"From time indefinite to time indefinite Yehweh is God." ~ Psalms 90:2
Even Jesus said He is the only true God. ~ John 17:3

2007-09-08 21:52:47 · answer #6 · answered by ? 6 · 0 0

"many people wants to know who created god"
This is a statement.
"some people say if god created this world and us than who created god"
This is also a statement.

Thanks for the points.

2007-09-08 20:32:18 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Is it so difficult to grasp that there is no answer for that?
Any answer given can be right or wrong, because no one really knows. The real question is what you think, and what is plausable for you to believe. We may have created a God in the future, to lead us now. We may be remembering something that connects us all. Would you care who made a car, if it runs?

2007-09-08 20:14:56 · answer #8 · answered by Margaret L 1 · 1 1

To be the true God he must neither have a beginning nor ending. If something had made God, God would be an idol. Since the "beginning" (Genesis 1,1; John 1,1), God exists and his existence forces itself on us as an initial fact, which needs no other explanation. God had no origin, no becoming. Because he alone is the "first and the last" (Isaiah 41,4; 44,6; 48,12), the world is entirely his work, his creation.

Because he is first God he does not have to introduce himself. He demands recognition by man's spirit through the sole fact that he is God.

2007-09-08 20:12:13 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

God was not created. He just exist before time and will after time as we know it. The great thing about Him is that He is powerful and He is a good God. He has blessed intentions for all mankind if we would accept Him.

2007-09-08 20:14:20 · answer #10 · answered by Erica L 3 · 3 3

man created god...
just as I created my imaginary friend, Walter.

2007-09-08 20:33:11 · answer #11 · answered by Frozen 2 · 0 0

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