Christians, would you be upset...?

Question

...If the Pledge had "Under Krishna" in it?

How about if your child was expected to pray with the rest of the class to the Great Horned God?

Or if your child had to listen to daily readings from the Koran?

Do you understand why there shouldn't be any religion in schools yet?

No, BURT it was founded (that is the word you were attempting to use, isn't it?) on Deism. The belief that there is a god who made the world and then went off somewhere and never came back. Jefferson was a Deist, as was Adams and Franklin. They all had very little love for organized religion. Would you like that to be taught to your children in schools, as the founding fathers intended?

mekarima, if I get a say in it, I plan to include as many winter holidays from as many religions as I can into my classes' holiday time.

Answer 1

"Under God" wasn't added to the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954, by congress, after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus. Say whatever you want or not.

Answer 2

I am a Christian, and all the pledge says is one nation under God, which corresponds to a lot of religions, not only Christians believe in God you know. If the pledge said under Krishna in it, i just wouldn't say it. I saw a shirt the other day, it said;

Student; Dear God, why do you allow so much violence, drugs and suffering in our schools?

God; sorry I'm not allowed in school.

Anyway, in no school is a person forced to practice a religion not of their own. Just CZ I'm a christian, doesn't mean i dont respect others religion, and their religious beliefs. some people have the wrong ideas of Christians.

there should be religion in schools, do u notice how much well behaved Christan students are, then the ones who aren't. i think if more kids learned about God, we'd have such a better society. our world is only getting worse. we need religion more than anything now. i would never try to change someones beliefs. but back then when Christianity was encouraged in schools, all the violence, drugs and crimes weren't happening not nearly as much as today. hope i helped. but to answer your question, i wouldn't be upset, but religion needs a place at school.


what you added
Deism doesn't say god went off somewhere and never came back, it says that God created the earth, and humans, and stepped back, and let the earth run, without any interference by him. get ur facts straight.

Answer 3

First, if you believe that Krishna is God then what difference does the way the pledge is worded make.. It's doesn't say Jesus, it doesn't say Allah, it doesn't say Krishna, or even science.. The individual can put any of those names in there they wish..
If you went back and examined my answers you would also see that I believe in free speech. Still, I don't believe religion should be pushed on anyone. I live in an area where the majority are members of what I believe is a non-christian cult. I Utah we have long stopped the school lead prayer. I like that and would hate to have my children subjected to their ideas of religion.. IHS Jim

Answer 4

The US of A was not founded on Christianity.. Nor Christian beliefs. It was founded on the beliefs of Deists, not Christians. Under God was not included in the Pledge until the 1940's I believe.

Religion shouldn't be brought to schools, or if it is brought to schools it should be in a religion class to learn about the numerous religions out there rather than just one. Also, it's the PARENTS responsibility to teach THEIR children about religious beliefs and prayer.. Such activities should not have to be practiced within school. Many schools have a "Moment of Silence" but I've heard plenty of people still complaining because there is no physical praying being demonstrated [kneeling, teacher leading the prayer session, etc].

And to that one person who said something about praying to a false god... What makes you so sure that your God is the real one? No one can say for sure... Otherwise it makes you look like an egotistical know-it-all. I don't want to pray to your God because I consider him a false God just like you consider my god a false one... Just because you believe strongly in it doesn't make anyone else's beliefs false or wrong. Get off your high horse.

To the person who said "look at how good Christian students are" uh... I'd like to correct you on that... I've met plenty of Christian students who were rotten to the core, spoiled little brats and overall some of the more physically violent.. Of course there are also plenty of good Christian students, but I've seen more violence and brats come from students claiming to be Christian than I have from students claiming to be Pagans, Atheists, Polytheistic, Muslim all put together.

Answer 5

Wonder Girl,
I taught in a public school system for 28 years and in a college for 18 (part time). I have NEVER wanted the prayer or religious upbringing taught in the public school system. My children have all attended public schools also. I believe that it is the JOB of the Parents to teach religious belief to their own children and NOT the JOB of the public schools. I would not want my children taught about the Koran any more than I would want them taught from the BIBLE since I do not agree with a number of the religious doctrines of man that are taught in many churches. Have a wonderful evening.
Thanks,
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Answer 6

Yes to all.

Except you are a little off on the Founding Fathers. Jefferson, while deistic, identified himself as a Unitarian, but he would be of the liberal variety. Adams was a conservative Unitarian, he believed in an active and Providential God, and he did not totally dismiss the idea that Jesus was the Son of God, but he did not adhere to the doctrine of the Trinity. Franklin had many types of religious beliefs in his life, but he did not dwell on matters of theology that much. He attended Presbyterian/Congregational churches most of the time, but more out of tradition then conviction. He most likely identified with the Unitarians, but admitted that he never studied the matter of the divinity of Jesus.

Deism is not a church or denomination, it is more like a philosophy. While the Founders you speak of were somewhat deistic, they were more like Unitarian.

Answer 7

Religion kills! Its not about religion. Religion has gotten us no where! However the creator of the universe is a different story. If you only knew him.....you'd all know this. I know God just like i know my best friend. I know his heart. What he likes and dislikes. Not just from reading The Bible....but mostly from hanging out with him. Give that a shot and you'll see why we should talk to him before we start our day. No other religion can claim this. They are all dead and not active in our lives.....even when you look at the backgrounds of every religion....mu hammed is dead, Buddha is dead.....they are all dead but The one known as Jesus Christ, the king of kings, the Lord of Lords. He is still alive. He still reigns and He still in control. That alone is a great reason to talk to him!

Answer 8

I can agree with you to some extent but I saw your old questions. How do you plan on teaching kids when all the little kids make christmas things in art class and sing christmas songs in choir etc? All the rooms seem to exchange gifts and Christmas and decorate too.

I'm a Muslim by the way.

Answer 9

Then omit it when you say it if it bothers you that much....seriously, if you arent saying it for religious reasons, do it because that was the faith of our forefathers, and the faith which, whether you like it or not, our country was founded on.

I see your point clearly, but I think that this particular two-word phrase is only a point of tradition and less of actual faith....

And by the way, "unashamed", Christians or no, scientists have recently found evidence that clearly shows that evolution is a bogus theory...read the news lately?

Answer 10

If most people had founded and fled from other countries to the states because of Krishna persecution, then yes. Look at the history.