Do you want to live in an Islamic Britain?

Question

Islam is completely incompatible with western values that we have fought and died for.
I am against mass immigration and mulitculturalism but I have nothing against people from a different race.
It is because of multiculturalism and PC we have the problems we have and more PC is brought in to try and stop it, which doesnt work. I have seen the problems in Iraq and it is a clear indication of the Incompatibility of the Islam and western values, and do you really want that here in Britain?
When people dont take time to listen to both sides of the argument it just makes them moonstruck fools and narrow minded. You must be open to debate as it makes you an fool if you are not!
you may think this is racist but it isnt there is a difference between racism and being against multi-culturalism. Because wouldn't you say those islamic protesters who shout behead all those insult islam, that is racism.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=J1qmFEujEtk
This is BNP based but please be open to debate

Answer 1

To the Brits as a Yank we hope the British Government does something soon so they can protect Western civilization.

Answer 2

There are plenty of Muslims who believe in Western values, at least as I understand them: religious tolerance, limited government and some form of capitalism. It isn't completely incompatible with Islam as many believers practice. The problem I have is with your generalizations, saying all ____ are ____. That is how I see "political correctness", simply not making gross generalizations. If you think the main problem with Iraq today is that they rejected western values than you clearly need to look into the issue more. The fact that it was completely misguided in light of 9-11, and so many tactical mistakes were made (disbanding the military, closing factories and newspapers) not to mention the disgraceful war profiteering- those are I think far more potent reasons for the mess in Iraq- Rather than some lofty "rejection of western values".

I really do not agree with the Holocaust not being taught, that is simply weak, not political correctness. History should be about developing critical thinking skills not promoting agendas. This means being able to take any period of time and evaluating both the good and bad about what was done, whether it is your own "civilization" or another's.

However it is the exact opposite of what you are saying that has caused an increase in radicalism in the UK. The Muslim populations are increasingly isolated, not assimilating and not as prosperous. Do you honestly think that these problems will get better with more division?

Honestly and saying that Britain is in danger of becoming Islamic is simply fear mongering. Britain is likely to have more homegrown terrorism if it does not assimilate its Muslim population.

Answer 3

A persons religious belief is a private affair and should have nothing to do with the economic management of a country.
This problem has occurred because of the meddling in the affairs of other countries by British governments since the invasion of 1066.
The greed for goods and human exploitation has brought about this situation and we have probably gone past the point of no return.
You can witness the situation repeated today with the cheap goods imported from China ( £17.00 p.w. and India £18.00 per month wages ) also the huge influx of foreign labour into the U.K.from outside the E.U. to create a cheap labour market.
Don't blame the foreigners blame the government and big business for this outrage, the ordinary people in this country have had to put up with this nonsense for centuries and the media is used to inflame people against each other while the culprits sit back and enjoy the plunder.
And they call it democracy!

Answer 4

Truly i dont know what you are all worried about really

I mean religion is an entity an evolving one at that albiet a slow one

however, islam will no doubt like all other religions fade into nothing as a new one rears its ugly head [if it hasn't already]

with regards to fanatics

when christianity was but 1200 years old they used to travel from all over to kill muslims

now that islam has reached 1300 years or thereabouts they are doing exactly the same thing to christians just using different weapons

and as you can see some 800 years later christianity is a dying faith so expect within the next 800 odd years to watch the faith of islam to follow the same path.

Dont you just love it when history repeats itself

Answer 5

Some people went so far as to say "die Muslins". I won't say that. I will say, Britain was created by a mixture of races, mainly European, and it's a continually changing mixture in race, language and culture. The same is true with the U.S.

The difference is that in the 15th through 17th centuries, in Europe, they drew the line and expelled the Moors.

There are women and children of Islam who are as much a victim as anyone else. The difference is they don't make policy, they don't decide what the law is, should be or shouldn't be. We should have pity and have mercy upon those Islamic unfortunates; they are as much prisoners of that system if not more so than Western society. And, I'm I'm brave enough to say that.

Wouldn't be nice to walk down the street without fear of having a gun put in your back?

I think there's part of the Catholic Mass Where it's spoken "peace be with you." I say "peace be with you, Islam and Christian." But, when I see the anger of some Islamic clerics, it's hard to turn the other cheek. But, again, peace be wtih them.

So, let us pray (I almost let stand prey for pray, would have an entirely different and unintended meaning) for peace between Christain and Islamic extremists, If not, expell them.

You can go back to the old Nazi speeches. When they came for the gympies, I didn't speak out. When they came for the Jews, I didn't speak out, when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me. It was true then and it's true now.

Don't wait until there's no one left to speak up for you as a Christain, British citizen.

Answer 6

No, I would not want to live in an Islamic Britain, in fact I wouldn't want to live in any faith based society. But there is no prospect of UK becoming an Islamic society. This is just BNP scaremongering.

I'm certainly not accusing you of being racist, but the BNP is an organisation whose membership is populated with those who can see no futher than the colour of a man's skin. Indeed, leader Nick Griffin famously said:

"Without the White race nothing matters [other right-wing parties] believe that the answer to the race question is integration and a futile attempt to create "Black Britons", while we affirm that non-Whites have no place here at all and will not rest until every last one has left our land."

You talk about the incompatability of the Muslim and the Christian, but the problem isn't with Muslims, it's with extremists. The extremist is incompatable with anyone who doesn't share his philosophy.

I wouldn't say an Islamic protester shouting "behead all those insult Islam" was racist (although if he said "Behead all non-Muslims" I would quickly denounce him as racist), but I would say that he was committing an incitement to violence and I would condemn his call to violence.

The problem is with those who are so fixated with the rightness of their philosophy, that they are prepared to use violence to further it, when it is obvious that it is not the public will. So I condemn Islamic Protesters calling for deaths, I condemn Christian fundamentalists who attack medical workers in abortion clinics, I condemn left wing rabble rousers who only seek chaos and violence, and yes, I condemn BNP members who regularly use violence against minorities and political opponemts.

Answer 7

Thank you for stating that the question originates from the BNP.

This Country (Great Britain) has flourished under Government elected by the People.
Not always has it been to the liking of all its inhabitants but embracing all Faiths and Creeds.
My Britain would be better kept as it is with controls on immigration, not for Faith reasons but to control the total in the Country.
We are already party to European directives but to be subjugated by Islam would be resisted by all sensible people.

Answer 8

i'm not at all proud to stay in this us of a. that's in hassle-free terms an twist of way forward for beginning that i'm British. If even with the shown fact that, i replaced into so lacking in self theory and any useful degree of awareness that i necessary to affiliate myself to a minimum of a few thing so spurious as a nationality, i could nonetheless not be proud to stay right here. by and great through fact people who ask questions like this stay right here. My God! How at as quickly as the peasants could properly be made to panic. that's what my Iranian female pal stated as quickly as I confirmed her this website! She, of direction, knows what an islamic republic is, in assessment to the monkey hangers on right here.

Answer 9

NO, do you? It sounds to me that you are a confused Brit. There is nothing we need to listen to the other side called "radical islamofascist". Give them the right time of the day and they will take it as submission. Give them the wrong time of the day and your head will no longer be attached to your body

This site has been most informative to me. You guys kept on mentioning the BNP and I had no clue 'til I gogled it. I now know. Thanks you all and keep on fitting for the civilized world.

Answer 10

No I don't want to live in an Islamic Britain. The Queen is the head of our church why doesn't she influence the government to stop all these super sized mosques from being build in our country. Surely the church of England should have the largest church here!

Answer 11

I left the UK years ago and each time I come back I am so dismayed at what it has become.
My wife hates the UK for the way it treats her and her family- law abiding, hard-working & wealthy- as total shite- she even was strip-searched at Heathrow- in 2003 all the while these women in abaya walk past babbling away in Arabic- and her father was travelling on a diplomatic passport.
Everyone knows it and is too damn cowardly to say it as it really is- the UK now treats foreigners far better than the native and it is total shite.

I live in Indonesia country besieged by Islamic loonies and limitless funding from Saudi subversion seeking imposition of their regressive Middle East.
The ancient cultures are slowly being driven out- and thank Christ- many moderate muslims now begin to hate their loony brethren too.
Indonesia loves the West and hates the Arab too. We will always remember the US saving us from Japan.