Where would you rather be? Anywhere but here?

Question

When will the time be right? Anytime but now?

“I am trying to tell you that if you look inward, and study your own sacredness and creativity and blessedness, and joy and power, as closely as you study the sacred books of the gods, then you would realize that all those books of the gods were based upon the greater reality of the individual – the individual soul. and therefore based upon your own reality. Do yourselves just honor ...” ~ Conversations with Seth, November 06, 1973.

Shihan: teacher...

Many worthy teachers here...

Answer 1

we're all guilty of being caught up in the dream; but we find our greatest strength when we push ourselves to wake up. i wish to look through the eyes of a child having his first conscious experience; i want to see where the story began.

Answer 2

Any time I find myself wanting to be somewhere else, I feel a pain. This pain stops when I actually get up and go somewhere or do something. Pain of desire and pain of spiritual envy...these things I recognize as my looking to the end without being willing to walk the path to get there. It is easy to want but not so easy to work to get there. Interestingly enough, the path is usually more rewarding than stepping to the goal, the quest over.

A few years ago, I completed a "walk to Mount Doom" where I trekked 1800 miles, mapping my progress in mileage through Tolkien's Middle Earth along Frodo and Sam's journey. It was a jolly path for awhile, then it became a grim push and by the time I reached Mount Doom, I had some problems arising from the journey itself. I have a permanent reminder of this journey, much like Frodo has his injuries. But my point is that while my feet danced on the road to Rivendell, the journey was the best thing ever. After I reached Mount Doom, things "went downhill" thereafter. The quest was finished and I hadn't the heart to go home. I understand Frodo Baggins a little better afterwards. What would have been better--that Frodo had done what he did or had stayed where he would have rather stayed--in the Shire, in the lands of the Elves, in comfort and safety or in the wonder and history of the immortal Elves (as Bilbo did)? Or is it better that he carried the Ring to its destruction and braved the hard path, opening the way for the new realm under Aragorn? I must conclude that, even though Frodo was gravely injured in body and soul, it is better he made the journey than not.

Answer 3

Sunman, there is no place I would rather be, right now. :-)

However, I don't see a point in trying to push people towards inner peace, and "here and nowism." Sometimes life is very painful. Sometimes those feelings of misery can't be changed, even by looking inward, such as in mental health problems. In such cases, looking inward does not reveal the inner divinity... just darkness, emptiness, blackness and despair. Looking outward, and to the future, and reading sacred books, may be the only way to hold on to hope.

The most inner agony in life is sometimes unavoidable, due to pain inflicted during childhood. Resolution for that sometimes requires a great deal of therapy.... which means that other people must take the injured one up in their arms, and carry them for a while, giving them strength and nurturing them as they didn't have when they were little children.

People are not always in control of their own reality. It was only through coming to know God's true nature (love) that I began to nourish and recognise the divinity within me.

Answer 4

I will not of myself add to what others have already imported above to this question, well put as they are.

As to time and space, energy and matter, on the here and now, I import to the topic and question this quotation gleaned from the Universal Healer, Vol 1, Issue No.8, August 19, 2007, titled -- 'Enlightenment':

" Many have searched the world to learn the secrets of Enlightenment. And many have written great words, thoughts and ideas about enlightenment. The greatest secret of enlightenment is that it truly cannot be spoken or written. True Enlightenment can only be transmitted as a burst of spiritual healing energy. No more than an ocean breeze give you the depths of the ocean, can descriptions of enlightenment or even the ideas of an enlightened being give you the fullness of enlightenment.

" Full enlightenment is the capacity to see the truth of healing and spirituality and all other matters directly and completely with one's own eyes without reference or dependence on the thoughts of another human. When a healer reaches the God level, enlightenment includes even higher capacities [...]

" I do not intend, in any way, to disparage the wonderful words and ideas of those who have taken such great pains to capture the wisdom that floods through, just as the very ideas on this page are flooding through. Indeed, the fundamental purpose of sharing enlightened ideas is to foster a greater desire for enlightenment directly. Unfortunately, those who bathe in streams of enlightened thought often become expert at regurgitating and analyzing the thoughts of others. Not only has the desire for true enlightenment evaporated, but even its memory is gone, too. How sad.

" Enlightened ideas are only evidence that enlightenment can occur. Words are shadows of experience, but they are not the experience itself. Just as the word, "hot" will not burn you -- even if you say it one million times -- fire will. You only have to touch it once. Enlightened words do not enlighten you. They will inform you of a possibility that you must seek [...] "

This quotation is derived from the works found at www.theuniversalhealer.com.

Answer 5

Might the best way to do ourselves just honor be by honoring everyone else? =)

We can look inward upon ourselves, and study that sacredness, creativity, blessedness, joy, and power... but to see that within another, and to honor that as we honor ourselves is pure love.

I think this is why I love being a chameleon... After so many "skin changes" I realized that the lovely being beneath all skins was the same. And boy do I honor and love that being!

<<<<<<<<<<< Cosmic Love & Honor >>>>>>>>>>>


EDIT:--- HAHA, John said "DO DO!" (Ok, so I had to let out the kid in me!) *wink*

Answer 6

Some of us cling so hard to our past experiences we are unable to move forward into a new dimension. Is it so important to define ourselves by the past that we cannot look to the future with the open mind of one willing to see? Is it not a challenge in our evolutionary process to come to an understanding, even a realisation, that all those things that happened before are not who we are in this moment? We can project our past into our future, and it will look the same as our past. We can drag this pile of experience and self with us, and no matter where we are we can stand atop this, and our view will be quite similar.
The challenge is to open a new version, a new vision, of who we are, unencumbered by who we were. This pivotal point of now, may be seen as a keyhole to look through into potential. Always will we be free to exercise our own will in accordance with our own desires and manifest the outcome of our choices.

Don't let the past remind us of what we are not now.......
Peace

Answer 7

The question is related with Spirituality more than religions. As stated by questioner,you can be anywhere but here.I think the question is related more deep views rather to understand simply as stated in the question. I cite here about "Moksha". (1)It is generally said that one can achief Moksha after death.(2) In our views "Moksha" implies that going from one place(house of sorrows) to another(there is peace and plenty). These conceptions about Moksha are not true as I found in the present question and I do agree with the questioner. One could achieve Moksha in this life itself, and it is not necessary to go anywhere to achieve it as stated in the question "Anywhere but here". Now I take first part of the question'where would you rather be".It is not necessary to wait for the death to achieve Moksha nor it is sure that one would achieve it in the next life. The questioner pointed out in his question as explained in the present answer that Enlightenment,through reflection,of one's true nature is "Moksha". I thank to the questioner to ask important question which may seem rather typical about our soul but slighty in different way.

Answer 8

I fully agree, all true scared texts are about the individual in a symbolic way, they say what happened, why it happened and how to get back home, but because of much misinformation and believing in others to "save" them some people have buried this knowledge but they do have the key, even if they don't know it.

Answer 9

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ Sunman }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

The time is now, and I am so thankful that I am here for it.

Lovely, isn't it, to look at these truths as they develop across space and time.... here is quantum physics coming around now, bringing us so much to wrap our brains around so we can accept the beauty and simplicity of this movement of inner Divinity that Seth is so in touch with.

It is also of interest to me personally, that the Tantric Buddhists, of which I am one, believe in just this very concept and use everything in order to enliven this deep and true Self.

The soul, the Parusha to the Atman of the All.... protector, keeper of the keys, diviner of the ways and means, and yet ultimately to be released as an even finer consciousness becomes apparent....

Answer 10

((((((((Sunman)))))))) -- how you FORCE me to move forward, to reject my stagnancy and get back on my path!

It is by looking inward and facing those demons that we free ourselves to move forward, to appreciate the moments as they happen. The past has value in terms of reflection, but if we live our lives with lack of clarity about our past, holding on internally to trauma and accompanying fear, we chain our future to it. Essentially, we will have no future, for we would have no now -- we would have only our past. Until we release the chains, we are linked with who we were, limiting who we are, failing to become who we are meant to be.

Once we acquire the clarity needed to kiss our demons goodbye, then and only then can we begin to appreciate where we are -- to relish a momentary awareness, a Consciousness, wherein we accept and release the hold our past has on us, and envision and anticipate the future as it comes to us. But knowing all along that it is the present that determines all of this.

But I, a mere mortal, get lost in my visions; too often I forget who I REALLY am. I callously ignore my divinity. I go beyond anticipation to WANT. This is my greatest challenge. I do not want to be here NOW. I want what is to come.

Be Here Now. Be the Sacred Me.

((((Sunman)))) . . . words fail.

Answer 11

But there isn't anywhere but here!
Wherever I might be would always be here. What I CAN do, (and do do), is to dream about being somewhere else - and then I am neither here nor there.
So, wherever I am, if I can really BE there, is just absolutely the right place for me to be.
And if I'm not present then I'm absent! And that's no place to be.

EDIT,
Mr Chameleon, I'm glad someone noticed!!!!

Dear MumOf4,
Thankyou for your timely reminder and for your compassion
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