Terms such as Absolute, 100% true, infallible, divinely guided , fades away when the truth emerges?

Question

let me explain. If such people existed whatever was written about their actions and words were written hundreds of years after that person lived ok

abraham 600 years

moses 500

mohomed 500

buddha 700

jesus 150

noah 600

and if you tell me that oral traditions can constitute the absolute truth i consider you to be a very ignorent person

when the gap is so wide between the persons life and the actual writing of his story then i ask,

how can you sit there and make absolute claims?

xmuslim / free thinker

Answer 1

how can you sit there and make absolute claims?

This applies to you,

Whats your proof, you really know nothing about history,

Answer 2

I will only answer for Abraham, Noah, Moses and Jesus Christ because I am not too sure about the writings of the other two.

Moses is the author of Genesis which includes the acounts of Noah and Abraham. Moses also wrote Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. Moses wrote about himself so there is no time gap between the writings and his life. Secondly, God, through the Holy Spirit and sometimes face to face, dictated the book of Genesis to Moses which contains the lives of Noah and Abraham. No oral tradition. Thirdly, we have eyewitness accounts of Jesus in the books of Mathew, John, James, Peter and Paul's Epistles. These books were written by the names mentioned themselves in their lifetimes. All of these books were written no later than 60 years after the death of Jesus. This is how I can make absolute claims. If you would like to find out more you should read about the Dead Sea Scrolls which were discovered in the 1950's and contain writings from the 1st century B.C.

Answer 3

Most of those terms are meaningless in any real context.

Any claim of something being absolute requires that we know absolutely everything. The most we can say is that, to the extent that we know anything and given the evidence we have, we know something to be true.

As far as "infallible" goes, that depends on a subjective judgement of what's considered a failure. And "divinely guided" is just plain undefined in any real sense because the word "god" is not really well-defined.

Answer 4

Senita everyday u have only these two or three questions.

Prophets were true and when next prophet told about previous prophet after taking information from God, it means same time. And Mohammad SAW being the last prophet have testified all previous prophets and his informations were recorded at the same time. It means avaialable information about all prophets are Absolute, 100% true, infallible, divinely guided from then and for ever.

Mis-guided people cry and go out of this world crying to hell but prophets were prophets, are prophets and will remain even on the day of Judgement they will be the same.

Bye sanata praying for ur guidance.

Answer 5

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Answer 6

It is very difficult trying to build a belief system around oral tradition. Especially when one depends on the eternity of their soul in getting the text right.

Seems crazy to me, but they have to believe that the text was divinely inspired, in order to feel safe about eternity.

Answer 7

ever heard of Chinese whispers, the more the whisper is passed around the circle, the more it changes, until you end up with something completely different. so it is highly unlikely that these stories are accurate.

Answer 8

Your physical senses have you chained to beliefs that are not eternal, nor do they serve you well. Yours is not ready for the next step, as evidenced by your post.

Answer 9

If they are divinely inpsired, they can be oral traditions of 10,000 years and still be accurate.

It is true men fail, but God doesnt.

Answer 10

Wow, that's a well put argument right there! I didn't know that (at least the one's that aren't Jesus). Good to know...