Why is God so Down on Catamites?

Question

Here is my reference....
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1COR%206:9;&version=50;

1 Corinthians 6:9 (New King James Version)
Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites,

Footnotes:
[a] 1 Corinthians 6:9 That is, catamites

Now.... "what's a catomite" I thought ... and.... well as far as I can figure a Catomite is word with latin origins that means the younger partner in a pederastic relationship between two males. Now this strikes a particular discord with me ... That is, a Catomite refers exclusively to an act of pedophilia ... but more interestingly Paul condemns not the adult perpetrator in this text ... but the adolescent little boy!

So, if you can make sense of that morality then please explain it to me 'cause I need to know.

Sahar.. you are saying that the footnote writer for my bible lacks expereince?

And that a victim of a pedophile will become a sodomist when he gets fewer lovers? I'm sorry but I take extreme offense at that suggestion!

Answer 1

I will attempt to answer that, as my husband is a molest victim and now survivor. He now knows that none of the molest was his fault, but he spent most of his life into adulthood *thinking* it was. Let me explain. The organic, physiological response to molest is very complex and requires dissection. Upon many years of regression therapy and inner child healling, we found out that molest triggers a multitude of emotions that a child cannot possibly process. Its almost as if the child's emotional wiring becomes overloaded with feelings only a mature person could handle. For instance, when s*nsual excitement is introduced to a pre-pubescant child, those feelings are processed differently than to a fully mature adult. The hippothymus part of the CNS become stunned and overwhelmed, effectively shutting down the ability to mature and develop appropriate sexual feelings. In essense, molested children grow up with dysfunctional emotional and sexual wiring. The natural response to inappropriate boundary violation (like molest and incest) is toxic shame. However, a victim's brain has been wired such to seek more of the feeling the shame (which has now been enmeshed with s*nsual pleasure) and grows up not knowing that this mode of operandi is very destructive. The feelings transpire into acting out behaviors that ulltimately inhibit normal development of intimate and platonic relationships. To be blunt, if there is no psychiatric or spiritual intervention, the victim inadvertantly becomes a predator due to the fact that the coping mechanisms wired in the brain are a direct response to the molest.

What I think Paul is suggesting that the victim or "Catomite" should seek intervention to prevent the propogation of the initial pedophilic abuse. Spiritual intervention is implied. By propogation, again, I state with firm belief that a victim will turn into a predator if he/she does not seek help to shut down the dysfunctional coping mechanisms that mimic and mirror the pedophilic behavior.

I will save my dissertation and my husband's testimony at another time. I am not sure if this answered your question.

Peace and blessings always!

Answer 2

Hey J, First - God has not abandoned you and is proud that you have been willing to sacrifice so much to give your baby a family. But you need to get some support for yourself. Being a member of a Christian church is the first place to begin. If you are already a member then let your brothers and sisters help to carry your burden. Be honest with someone you trust from church with your struggles - your pastor maybe. There is no help if you pretend that life is peachy just to keep up a "good Christian" appearance. If you are not a member yet then make yourself one. And be regular at church events - worship, socials etc. Include the family as best you can and you just might grow closer together ... maybe. Second - get some professional help. Find a counsellor/psychologist who will be supportive of your Christan values. You have made a significant choice in marrying the mother of your child and I want to encourage you in that ongoing choice that you make every day. Find someone who will honour that choice but still be able to help you with your life struggles. Your depression maybe chemical and not simply emotional. You might need to start on medication to help balance your brain chemistry - there is no shame in this. If you have a headache you take an asparin, this is no different. Thirdly - be honest about your career. Seriously question the why's of where you are at. Why are you in this career? Is it the right career for you? What do you need to move forward in your chosen career - more training maybe? Just realise that when one part of your life is out of balance it will have a ripple effect through all the areas of your life. So your faith, your family life & your career are interconnected. And please know that while I give this answer to your question I realise that these are very complicated issues and my answers are fairly simplistic. May God our Father bless you with his peace.

Answer 3

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Answer 4

Catamite In The Bible

Answer 5

No footnote writer has made a mistake because of lack of experience. All sodomite are first catamites, then gradually they become sodomite when they find less lovers. So only sodomite covers both, dont worry u r already in and in upper lines not adown.

Answer 6

This is the verses that you speak of:

" Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." {1 Corinthians 6:9 -11}

I don't see where you get that Paul is blaming the boy.

Answer 7

In times gone by, adolescents were socially expected to have more intellectual, emotional, spiritual, and vocational maturity than they are expected to have today. And they had it. God doesn't buy into the false stage of adolescent irresponsibility. He would certainly condemn someone who truly took advantage of or forced an adolescent without condemning the adolescent, but I think He acknowledges concensuality by some adolescents.

Answer 8

easy answer, the bible has been passed down so many times that it has ::::gasp:::: errors. I must say, if it is not an error then that's definitely not a belief system i can support. Kinda reminds me of when I realized that god said "thou shalt not kill" and a few chapters later said to kill the Canaanites to take the "promised land". Anything touched by human hand is imperfect so consider it a mistake, think for yourself, and move on.

Answer 9

Are you saying that a young willing partner in a homosexual act cannot be considered a homosexual on the grounds that s/he is not and cannot be considered a consenting adult?
Interesting point in a legal sense. But I doubt if that approach cuts much ice in a spiritual/Biblical sense.

Answer 10

My KJV doesn't read that way and I think you are full of crap. Must be homo.