Should we have the freedom to eat what we want?

Question

Should we have the freedom to eat what we want if that freedom means the taking of a life?

I hear meat eaters say that what they eat is a personal choice. What if someone chose to eat you? Would that be a personal choice also?

Open your eyes meat eaters! The outfit you chose to wear to a party is a personal choice. The color you decided to paint your house is a personal choice. The taking of an innocent sentient beings life is not a personal choice, it is murder.

So when you say you have the freedom to eat what you want, just know that does not apply to eating animals. From this point forward, I ask that you no longer use that excuse.

I will not sugarcoat the truth
- Ashley

jellbz, you said, "Sugar is after all vegan."
My response to you is this. It is not vegan, sugar is refined with cow bone char. Once again, your lack of education shines through. Please do some reading before you try to answer my questions.

FreeSpirit, I understand your frustration. However, eating meat is wrong. I will not tell a lie. It is my duty to speak for those animals to protect them from predators.

Answer 1

What's the alternative? Vegetables? You mean, the things that once had life before being eaten by vegetarians and vegans? Beans? They had life once, too ... believe it or not. Fish? Don't even get me started on that subject. Whatever you can imagine putting in your mouth as an alternative to meat once thrived as something else. As for eating animals, read the Old Testament. You might just get a revelation you never had before. And, as for your question about 'what if someone chose to eat you'? Many humans have been eaten by animals. Do you know what those animals do after they eat people and other animals? They lie down and bathe themselves, because they just had a good meal! The animal kingdom certainly doesn't picket each other or debate among themselves about leaving other species alone.

Answer 2

Are you serious? If we go by your senario, the"taking of an innocent sentient beings life", would leave us without clothes, any sort of food, paper products, pictures, and anything that is made from any type of plant or animal. I'm sure you choose to put on clothes everyday, but I dont hear you screaming about all the poor cotton plants that were destroyed so that you can wear your I hate meat eaters shirt. More importantly,society deems it ok for humans to eat animals. There are no laws against it and there never will be because there is nothing wrong with it. Before you go on some tear of "well society also says this and that is ok", just think all the things society lets us do that could be considered wrong like using the internet to make a stand.

Answer 3

Um, let's see:
I'm all for vegetarianism, I have the utmost respect for animals, but your argument has several key flaws that you may want to address before further publicly decrying meat-eating:
"The taking of an innocent sentient beings life is not a personal choice, it is murder."
---Since when is murder not a choice? Point one.
---Who's judging how innocent or santient the animals we eat are?

"So when you say you have the freedom to eat what you want, just know that does not apply to eating animals."
---Um, what? That sounds great as a powerful closing statement, if only there were anything to back it up. I don't think I need to point out that I shut down your backup in the above points.

Humans and humanoids (Cromagnon and his homies) have been eating animals for hundreds of thousands of years, just as animals who are bigger than we are, given the freedom, could easily eat us. By way of technology and evolution, we've ended up at the top of the food chain, like it or not. Humanity could be wrong, we could be killing and eating the most intelligent, well-meaning beings on the planet, and maybe we're all going to hell for it. Be that as it may, your argument makes no sense, and although your motives are noble, you need to work on those persuasive skills of yours.

Answer 4

I'm a meat eater & i have no problem with anyone choosing the way they want to eat. i don't understand how someone's eating habits are such a big issue to some people. Last i remember it's a free country & people can eat the way they want. Why do certain people feel the need to attack others just b/c they are vegetarians? or Meat eaters? Should that even matter? This world would be a better place if they would stop fighting over something as petty as someone's eating habits.

Answer 5

So does that mean that you would call anyone who takes another life a murderer? So if my cat eats a mouse she catches in the field, she is therefore a murderer? Do you then picket the houses of those who own cats? BTW, cats are predatory beings, they hunt and eat birds, mice, and anything else that was stupid enough to sit still long enough. Yes Ashley, it is personal choice. Yes Ashley you continue to rant and rave like a lunatic, which is also personal choice. We keep reading your tirades and replying to them, also personal choice. I understand your wanting to educate people on your vegan lifestyle, but you never present us with information in a positive light, instead you bully people into believing you are right. Where are all these links to show us how the government is going to ban meat? Where are the links to show us how meat is scientifically proven to kill us?

Answer 6

Christ - a female Hitler. "It is my duty to ..." Away and bile yer heid! Your are talking complete and utter piss! I don't tell YOU what to eat - don't YOU tell ME. I have no problem with vegans/vegetarians UNTIL I come across a bumptious, supercilious numpty like you. I also don't see why animals should take precedence over humans. And I don't LIKE animals being used for testing but how many people in this day and age have never had an antibiotic? And what about debilitating diseases like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, etc? Tell you something, lady - you'll be dead against using animals for testing for cures for these diseases UNTIL someone you love dearly gets them! Maybe you should watch a rerun of the programme on Alzheimer's that was on last Wednesday evening. That is reality.

My apologies to the SANE vegetarians/vegans. I pity you having to put up with this waste of space.

Edit: Kate M - SSHHH!! Keep her right here!

llmmfe: Aren't you a wee bit young to be on YA?

Answer 7

yes one can't tell the other what to do.

everything has conciquences.

mass production of everything is problematic. not just animals for food. there's many issues with vegetables too now.. the more one has to produce the lesser the quality, care and health issues arise with the article being produced.

you can't make anyone do anything that they don't want.

but with some intellect and patience maybe some can change the way things are done.

meat animals don't have to be treated that poorly... not just for the sake of the animal but an abused animal makes for poor meat and poor meat and condition also make for poor conditions, quality and standards.

i'm not sure what can be done.. since it's all based on the big $$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s.

and it's not just with the animals... it's with the fruits, vegetables.. medications... other products.. making too much at one time.. with lesser and lesser quality control it shows a degrading system and failure in the system.

i got mad when i found out there's only 1 inspector to inspect over 10,000 items no matter it be food, drink, medications, makeup, toys....

and poor conditions also work a number on vegetables as we seen last year with the spinach, lettuce some carrots and even some tofu prodution.

if we can't maintain quality control i highly doubt we will even hold any care or caution to the wind when it comes to the way meat animals, dairy cows and egg laying chicken are treated.

by the way i'm also mad at these companies that call themselves vegan and their products have animal product in them. they should make those labels CLEARER to the consumer.

i also like to see the ORGANIC scam get looked into. lately some organisations have been finding those who marker their product organic are just using their regular product and putting a different label on it.

Answer 8

The concept of murder does not apply to animals.They do not have the same sensibilities and levels of feeling and intelligence as us. If they did then it would be they not us at the head of the food chain. They are reared as food. They are a product. Their destiny from birth is to be slaughtered and end up on a plate.
I can understand that you find modern mechanised methods of slaughter unpalatable. But would you prefer that we humans reverted to type and started hunting in the fields again as our ancestors did. Humans are designed to eat meat. Fact. Vegetarianism is seen mostly as a food fad. Humans arent going to convert en masse regardless how much you protest . Meat isnt murder, its business!

Answer 9

If you were to just outlaw all meat-eating right now in the UK or US, you would only have a very small minority of people (some vegetarians...not even all or most vegetarians) in support of that law. And the vast majority very angrily against it. Do you really think that would stop people from killing animals? Do you think people wouldn't set up a vast black market in meat, for the short amount of time before the law was repealed? (History lesson - read about Prohibition in the United States).

The only way meat consumption will decrease is for more people to choose (key word, CHOOSE), to be vegetarian. Your tirades against people just make it less likely for them to ever consider sharing a lifestyle with people like you. As a vegan, I'm ashamed to share that with you myself, but my consolation is that the ones who rant and blame are a (very) vocal minority. Please reconsider your tactics, Ashley. Try to look at things from a non-veg*n's perspective, instead of seeing them as 2-dimensional monsters for you to fight against. Only then can we all communicate effectively with each other.

Answer 10

sentient - endowed with feeling and unstructured consciousness

sapient - acutely insightful and wise

animals, other than [arguably] the great apes or cetaceans are classed as neither

humans along with many other animals are omnivores - eat all

to constrict oneself to an either /or diet is actually to damage yourself and your body

fanatics on either side do nothing to further any goals, fanatics cannot persuade nor be persuaded

therefore this is a pointless question
actually a diatribe - A bitter, abusive denunciation.
masquerading as a question, from the OP